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And it's on the transcript. we can all read it for ourselves. we wanted europe to do more. our allies, why weren't they doing more to help ukraine, and we wanted cooperation in the legitimate justice department investigation into ukraine election meddling in the 2016 election. >> you're kind of doing a double mulvaney. you're saying yeah, this was part of it, yes. that's what you needed from ukraine. >> it had nothing to do with biden. >> david, i mean, it had to do with biden because the white house admitted that already. >> and it had to do with the servers and a far right cookie conspiracy ...

>> and to john's point, david, that's clearly where a lot of senate republicans disagree with the president on, meaning fwhaefr john's analysis, whatever egocentric reasons there may be for a certain defense, these are republicans, some of whom are up this cycle, some of whom are up later. and they don't necessarily want to own all of that. as for the improvising, you know, i want to play for you, david, because we always try to get everyone we can on the show to get through all these defenses and ideas. and we had the top national spokesperson for the rnc on. this was this friday, and she was...

Investigation into ukraine election meddling in the 2016 election. we know a ukrainian court has ruled that they did, in fact, meddle in the 2016 against president trump. politico reported this in january 2017, before president trump was even sworn in that -- >> are you going -- i want to get you on the record -- >> president trump -- >> hold on! let's take turns. >> is that foreign interference? >> if you ever want to come back on this show, we have to take turns. just rules of the road. you're kind of doing a double mulvaney, you're saying, yes, this is part of it. that's what you needed fro...