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The hearing with brett kavanaugh and christine blasey-ford. will go forward tomorrow. as of now. one senator already wrote a letter to the president calling for the nomination to be withdrawn. before the hearing. who? democrat kiersten gillibrand. we talked to her not long ago. senator, thank you for joining us on primetime. >> hi. >> in a world of shock a bigger shock today. the president seemed to dispute that. and said in the press conference everybody is going to get a chance. every woman will get a chance. then he had another really wild case of double speak. i'll play the sound. >> the...

Extend it further, and how if anybody in his campaign was doing something wrong, they should be punished for it. >> right. >> and i think the totality of the interview is really where his mind was, but the sound bite marketed really was a predicate for a lot of bad things to come. >> right. but a couple of points, michael. first of all, they're different subjects, why he fired comey and what he would do with the mueller investigation. second of all, he said it. and the story that the white house had put out was him firing comey had nothing to do with russia. then he said to lester holt the opp...

Crucial issues we didn't necessarily hear before. what do you think james comey is saying and why? >> look, as george orwell would probably have said of rudy giuliani, that was his final and most essential command, okay? we are living in a 1984 propaganda war, and i think people need to -- people who make these 1984 references and these orwellian references, i think sometimes they forget the party wins in that book. this kind of stuff works. this kind of double-speak, disinformation campaign, propaganda campaign that giuliani is on -- it works for a lot of people. and so we should be, i think,...

Does this raise legal problems for anyone connected to an investigation? >> of course. it's astonishing that he would be so forth coming in trying to speak about this issue. there is a lot of double speak. he is saying he would not flip on me. even if he did it would likely be a lie. everybody does that with the government. the government has to corroborate trying to give somebody flipping credit. the idea being if you were the cooperator and give information on somebody who may be a potentially higher target we will kind of grease that wheel for you and make it worth your while. that assumes ...

That flies in the face of what she is clearly saying, but she's also saying, we've been advised. in other words, they've spent time looking into it. >> that's right. and couple of things i would say. one way they could try to get around it is by putting in a new attorney general and by ordering that attorney general to remove the regulations entirely. >> ah, so fire jeff sessions, change the rule, then do it without rod rosenstein. >> basically. but i will tell you, one thing you're keen in noticing this is a sort of double speak that's going on here. what we hear from republicans is there's n...