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The number one issue for voters has been immigration. that is why we started there. there is a superdeep divide in the democratic party, democrats work for years to come up with universal healthcare, the ultimate result was the affordable care act which was on the watch of barack obama and joe biden. progressive liberals, medicare for all, that was the big topic and you could tell at the end that joe biden is really mad about this because he uses the word he only uses when he is really mad. >> obamacare is working. >> your plan does not cover anyone in america. your staff and your own definiti...

But you guys printed it 15 times. [laughter] >> reporter: the last voter turnout is down in states like michigan. you invoke president obama a lot when you talk about -- how do you plan to get an obama-level turnout in 2020 as a white >> dana: hi, everyone. and dana perino. do you think there was the commander in chief on the debate politician? >> i ran a state that has the eighth largest black population stage to i will ask veterans who in the country. served in iraq and afghanistan, i've never gotten any fewer plus many obama supporters and staffers upset about all the attacks on the former ...

90-something percent of the people watching love. owning that maybe they should make them forget he was with have done more, but he learned obama, don't remind them. from that. >> the first major debate of the i think that clearly there was not some kind of nonquestioning night came between joe biden and kamala harris on their proposals for health care. of the policies of deportation it was the first topic of the night. the former vice president was under obama. when you contrast that with what joined by senator michael bennet is going on now with trump in in defending their health care positi...

Playing defense. and the hardest thing for him to defend in the current climate politically was the deportations. i thought he was hit very hard on, that on the question of double talk because he said it was wrong for his opponents -- for gillibrand to change her vote because of the election. and right out of nowhere he got hit on the fact that he was changing his vote on the hyde amendment, for example. so he had so many people coming at him from so many directions i think it would be very hard for him to be a successful goalie tonight. and i'm sure -- but i will say one thing. he was 100% be...

And we've got to take a break but this is what she said last night about president trump. watch. >> when we are talking about the president, people will say, his remarks are racist and will forget the inherent racism that has always been part of him, and how much he always takes an opportunity to others, to vilify them. >> order control is not racism. go to australia! go to any country that believes in protecting its borders! that's not racism. that's common sense. >> laura: they use racism as a cultural and weapon, continue to do that as long as people take it -- >> it is racial double-talk. ...