MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show October 21, 2021 08:26:00
They open to persuasion on this issue? i wanted to talk to you tonight in part on your credibility on this issue because you've not been somebody who has been willing to throw out the rule or wanted to change the rules from day one. you're a constant on this. >> the reason for my reluctance is that what is, you know, this is a doubleedged sword. what we view as obnoxious obstruction two, four, six years from now when the few hsu is on the other foot, we might view as a precious shield to protect important environmental laws or, you name it. this is a hard call.
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