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Another interesting thing he says, about the trade strategy, he says that we're engaged in a stop or i'll shoot myself in the foot strategy, which sums up the collective exhaustion between mainstream economists. >> dow man says i don't follow the stock market. i watch jobs. >> jobs coming out at 8:30. gm workers back to work. is this the sign we're moving in the right direction that the president would like to see? >> it could be. there's a little nervousness heading into the jobs report coming out in three hours. that's because the adp private sector report came out wednesday and the u.s. add...

December 15th. something could happen. we're not discussing that. >> the president doesn't in that sound byte, but he often says, we'll see what happens. that's where we are. i think investors have baked in there's not going to be destruction between china and trade. that could be the wrong gamble. >> it could be. there's been a mindset in the market that it's sort of this battle between tariff man and dow man. president trump sees the stock market as his barometer of his success. if there were to be a sharp decline in stocks, that would hurt his re-election chances. and investors are thinking...