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Something with bringing down gadhafi, with bringing down bashar assad. how are you people than the people on the left and people like me who think that's all been a mistake? >> well, we might have some areas of agreement. i think one of the true things you can say about the middle east is, every time we've toppled a dictator, chaos has ensued and we're more danger. america has more danger from these regions after we've toppled the deck tators. that includes the iraq was. i think we need to think before we act. and we need to obey the constitution which says you don't go to war without the auth...

Countries in the middle east. saddam hussein. we've had two wars with iraq. we had something to do with bringing back hosni mubarak. something with bringing down gadhafi, with bringing down bashar assad. how are you people than the people on the left and people like me who think that's all been a mistake? >> well, we might have some areas of agreement. i think one of the true things you can say about the middle east is, every time we've toppled a dictator, chaos has ensued and we're more danger. america has more danger from these regions after we've toppled the deck tators. that includes the i...

Militia leaders in libya. the implications are really complica complicated. initially i think you would have said we need more security at diplomatic outposts. that's certainly true. the writer of the article argues it's a cautionary tale for the u.s. about how do we make sure the people we think are allies in these countries really are. if we look at syria, for example, the people working with us to take down assad, are they really allies or not? the argument in the story basically is some of the people the u.s. was allied with in taking down gadhafi were also involved in killing the ambassad...

The joy that we saw at the end of the revolution, did you get a sense now that there is also, i don't know, a fear now of where it's going? because things are still blowing up every day or seems like every day. >> i asked a lot of people this question. the answer i got back again and again was, look, we took down gadhafi. we will take care of these people too. there seems to be a sense of determination to not ever allow themselves to backslide into the kind of oppressive regime they had before. they like their freedom. i'm not speaking for everybody for sure. but i met a lot of people who are ...

Dangerous enemy to have right on your doorstep. i think the jordanians are going to be looking for american leadership here when it comes to the syrian crisis. and what we heard from presiden solution. he said we need an international effort to solve the syrian civil war. and it is a complicated mess right now. there is sectarian division. that is not an answer that is going to make many syrians happy. they have argued because the international community has not intervened earlier and with more leadership, that the sectarian problems have only gotten worse. and the example that every syrian wi...