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If we don't provide greater military assistance. we have the means to stop, and at least mitigate the worst carnage. and you know, as your previous guest said, will we at some later point have to intervene at a time that is perhaps more difficult. i think this question of risk is very important one. we need to mitigate the risk, but it's also true that not taking greater action comes with a risk as well. because putin is a bully, and he only understands strength. >> ambassador, i want to ask you, if we just take a quick break, we've got a lot more of that we want to discuss, with you if you do...

Change. i was expressing the moral outrage that i felt. nobody believes we're going to take down -- i was talking about taking down putin. >> we have reporters across ukraine as well as in poland where so many of the nearly 4 million ukrainian refugees are tonight. i want to start with fred pleitgen outfront live in kyiv. fred, i just showed everyone some of the video that you filmed when you went north of kyiv. it was amazing, right? you saw in the streets complete and utter rubble. those giant -- pothole wouldn't be the right word. those are complete holes and destroyed what used to be city ...

Kharkiv in the east suffered brutal russian attacks. they were able to deliver medical supplies to the area on monday. meanwhile, u.s. president joe biden said he is sticking by his statement russian president, vladimir putin cannot remain in power. have a listen. >> i'm not walking anything back. i was expressing moral outrage of the way putin is dealing and the actions of this man with the brutality, half the children in ukraine, i had just come from being with those families. but i want to make it clear, i wasn't then nor am i now articulating a policy change, i was expressing moral outrage...

>> the world wants to know a lot of things. i'm not telling them what the response would be. russia knows the response. >> two more questions. >> mr. president, thank you. i still want to get back to your original words that he cannot remain in power. can you help us understand? you are more foreign policy experience than any president that has ever held this office. what are your personal feelings as president? you understand why people would believe you commanding one of the largest nuclear arsenals in the world saying cannot stay in power is a statement of u.s. policy and are you concerned ...

Himself. you have more foreign policy experience than any president has ever held this office to understand why people would believe you as someone commanding one of the largestevy nuclear arsenals in the world saying someoneou cannot remain in power is a statement of u.s.c policy and also, are you concerned about propaganda use of those remarks by the russian ? no, no. nobody believes we're going to take down. i was going to was talking about taking down putin. i was expressing my outrage every time they send biden out to speak or they build up some speeches, a major address, he just digs him...