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are tense again. thank you so much for joining us this morning. thanks to all of you for getting up "way too early" on this thursday morning. "morning joe" starts right now. a self-loathing has swept our country. joe and kamala even say america is racist. this is not about identity politics. i don't believe in that, and i don't believe in glass ceilings either. strong and proud, not weak and woke. that's the america i see. [ applause ] >> the only challenger so far to donald trump in the 2024 presidential race kicks off her campaign. during that speech, nikki haley took a dig at ...

Said after january 6th, "he led us down a path we should not have followed him" -- those were her words to "politico" -- how can she say that when she'd followed him down these paths? that is the dilemma, jon meacham. the people who are running, who may run, look at mike pence, mike pompeo, down the list, people have gone along for the ride. most of the time, mike pence the exception right at the end, have gone along with donald trump. how now do you run against a guy and separate yourself from donald trump? >> yeah. jon meacham -- sorry, i was going to go to you. quickly, you have to do somet...