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It is about hundreds of thousands of dead. >> innocent people. just the depths of desperation, what you are describing there, those still trying to flee the city. your country's president, volodymyr zelenskyy, said despite your city being reduced to ashes, he refused to surrender to russia. how do you hold on when putin appears to have the advantage and intent on taking it over? >> it is hard to say we understand even if this city was stranded. there are no, after that. in villages which russians already taken, they start to take men, and get it to the so-called dpr army. there are no peace af...

>> reporter: so one russian general, flushed and agitated, according to the americans, just another mystery about what really may be going on behind kremlin walls. pamela? >> barbara starr at the pentagon with this exclusive. thank you so much. let's discuss with cnn military analyst and retired army major general james spider marks. this is clearly a rare and revealing look at the sensitive meeting between russian and u.s. military officials that barbara just laid out. what is your reaction to it? what does that say about morale in the russian military right now? >> well, on several levels,...