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2020. and that's a day before trump held an oval office meeting with mike flynn and sidney powell and other trumpworld allies about ways to potentially seize election machines and other things trump saw as proof of fraud in the election. so it's unclear exactly if these two are linked. but, i mean, that's quite a coincidence with the timing. >> in terms of the sort of nature of these documents and the likelihood that they'll ever see the light of day, obviously mr. kerik has described this document, again, a draft letter for the president about seizing evidence, we don't know more about it tha...

Basis for withholding, documents drafted and or edited by attorney. date, december 26 to 17 2020. draft, buddhist letter. meaning draft of a letter from the president of the united states. but look at the subject matter of that document, again, bernie says that he is not handing over. quote, draft letter from potus to seats evidence in the interest of national security for the 2020 elections. a draft letter to be released by, then president trump, voted for him by an attorney. a letter explaining or announcing that he is seizing evidence for the 2020 elections under some national security guid...

Letter that you brought up just now, the timing in the data it is the most interesting. so that is dated december 17th 2020 that is a day before trump held an oval office meeting with mike flynn and sidney powell and other trump world allies about ways to potentially seize election machines and other things that trump saw as proof of fraud in the election. and so it is unclear how these two are linked. but it is quite a coincidence with the time. >> in terms of the sort of nature of the documents and the likelihood that the ever see the light of day, obviously, mr. kerik has described this doc...

Of electors supporting joseph biden, and a separate slate of electors supporting trump gathered on december 14th at the proper location to cast their ballots. both sets of those ballots have been transmitted to washington d.c. to be open by vice president, pence. in fact, i don't know why the justice department believes that to be true, but that was correct. we now know. multiple states, republicans in multiple states, had sent in false assertions, forged documents claiming to be the electors for their states. matt that draft letter was dated december 28th, how did that guy -- that trump guy a...

All people, we've got this new revelation, a lawyer of some stripe, drafting a letter for trump about seizing evidence related to the election. again, this dated mid-december 2020. and bernie kerik says he has this document but doesn't want to hand it over. what do we expect will happen next? joining us now is nicholas wu, a congressional reporter for politico, the first to report that bernie kerik had handed over documents to the january 6th investigation. mr. wu, thanks very much for making time tonight, it's nice to have you here. >> thank you. >> so first of all, let me ask if i've gotten ...