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Our understanding is that, you know, most of his republican colleagues want to go ahead and take down roe v. wade. that said, where the beginning of may here, and his final decision likely won't be published until the end of june, perhaps, even the beginning of july. so, it's fair to say that this is a situation that is unresolved at this point, and i can't promise you that various things may not change between now and late june. >> josh, in terms of the substance of this opinion, as written, i get news draft the majority opinion. with the caveat that this is a historically unprecedented lead ...

Rest of our captivity. >> we continue to follow the stunning news out of the supreme court this morning, a draft majority opinion obtained by politico suggests the high court will strike down roe v. wade that they already voted on this, though it is preliminary at this point. what this could mean for other landmark decisions as well. and later this morning, president biden will see some of the weaponry being sent to ukraine, yohe'll see it firstha. and in the dark. but what if you could begin to see the signs of hope all around you? what if you could let in the lyte? didiscover caplyta. capl...

Y, because it's different, and yet it often does get applied that way. but there's no question, he's trying to keep this confined to the issue of abortion. >> and of course, that's funny, that's telling itself, right, that you would be willing to say, it's just about abortion and not about anything important, don't worry, tells you the frame of mind of, the frame of mind behind people who would make this kind of a change. let me ask you about one last piece of this, josh. since we've been on the air, since we received your reporting tonight, since you published, we, on my show, have contacted ...

Apple. none of that is surprising but to have this draft opinion on the internet is shocking. >> it is shocking as you said and as we started discussing here, it is shocking both in substance and also shocking in terms of what it means about the court, and what it means about the stakes here that someone was willing to do this. it is just a remarkable thing. chris, thank you for handling as legitimately breaking, sort of overwhelming breaking news. i'm going to pick this up right now, including with the reporter who just broke this story. thank you, my friend. >> thank you. before i bring on...

That highlights in itself i think the unique nature of this reporting that you have done, and this leak, and i wonder if you have any reflection on what it might mean for the credibility of the court, for the legitimacy of the court, for a draft majority opinion to have made its way into your hands. this is something that has never happened before in the history of the court. and as a court observer and somebody who understands how the court fits into our politics, what sort of impact do you think this will have on the court itself? >> well, i mean, there have been leaks out of the court befor...