This. this isn't just a wisconsin phenomenon. as bob said, they're institutional players, the legislative economic election council are a group that draft model legislation and are pushing it in states across the country. constantly -- indiana, ohio, this is the tip of the iceberg, and all these governor, chris christie, mcdaniels, they're working toward wisconsin. >> so, jane, let me stay with you. how do we organize people and fight back? how do you win? how do you bring in people outside of wisconsin to fight this money machine that they have coming in? >> one thing that's happened, the dem...