Distances. >> so you couldn't march? >> it would be very difficult to march long distances, very healthy. and the back, it's here, you can see et on both feet. i have spurs. >> that's a real thing. and a lot of people got medical deferments. >> not an out, but i got a deferment. >> michael, he had actually talked publicly about having a high draft number previously. >> right, so that was the major point that he wanted to make in the rest of the interview was that he had this high draft number, so maybe the feet didn't matter. and i shouldn't take that too seriously. these become very tortured ...