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>> the july 19th e-mail where you say the subject is i talked to zelensky just now. >> yes. i've got it. >> was there some sort of assurance that president zelensky needed to provide about what he would say to president trump in order just to get the phone call? >> i think that part was verbal and then there were a lot of communications going around back and forth with the ukrainians. that's when someone, and i don't remember who, came up with the idea of a draft statement so there would be no misunderstanding about what, in fact, the ukrainians would say and would be willing to say that we co...

Right? >> which email again? >> the july 19th email where you said the subject as i talked to zelensky just now. >> i got it. >> was there is some sort of assurance that president zelensky needed to provide about what he would say to president trump in order just to get the phone call? >> i think that part was for a bowl and were a lot of communications going around back and forth with the ukrainians and that is when someone, and i don't remember who, came up with the idea of a draft statement so there would be no misunderstanding about what in fact the ukrainians would say and would be willin...

President trump told you and others to "talk to rudy." do i have that right, sir? >> correct. >> mr. ambassador, did you listen to the president and talk to rudy, sir? >> did i talk to rudy? yes. >> what did you understand to be mr. giuliani's relationship with president trump. >> and understood he was the president's personal lawyer. >> what did you believe to -- what did you believe mr. giuliani was doing in ukraine for president trump? stick i don't know. >> ambassador sondland, in august of this year, you and ambassador volker spoke to mr. giuliani about a draft statement to be issued by p...

Very senior officials, is that right? >> which i email again? >> sorry, the july 19th email, where you say, the subject is, i talked to zelensky just now. >>ed yes, i got it. >> was there some sort of assurance that president zelensky needed to provide about what he would say to president trump in order just to getsa th phone call? >> i think that part was verbal. and then there were a lot of communicationser going around bk and forth with the ukrainians. and that's when someone, and i don't remember who, came up with the ideame of a draft statement sodr there would be no misunderstanding abou...

We're going to get to that draft statement which was in august. this is july 19th, before the july 25th call. do you remember whether there was abe need from any of the whe house officials or other national security officials for president zelensky to provide some assurance of what he would say to president trump before a phone call, not the meeting, but a phone call was scheduled? >> there was initially apparently a condition. butnt that condition was obviouy dropped, because the phone call took place and there was no such statement made.as the phone call took place, as you said, on the 25th ...