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Meeting in the oval office to discuss the future of u.s./ukrainian relationships, president trump told you and others to talk to rudy. do i have that right, sir? >> correct. >> mr. ambassador, did you listen to the president and talk to rudy, sir? >> did i talk to rudy? >> yes, sir. >> yes. >> what did you understand to be mr. giuliani's relationship with president trump? >> i understood he was the president's personal lawyer. >> what did you believe mr. giuliani was doing in ukraine for president trump, sir? >> i don't know. >> ambassador sondland, in august of this year you and ambassador vo...

Yourself know what ambassador sondland meant by the deliverable? >> i did not at the time. i think i have an understanding now. >> and what is your understanding now? >> there seems to have been discussions about a statement and various drafts of which had been discussed in various proceedings. >> but this, to your knowledge, was part of the parallel process you were talking about? >> yes. >> if we could go to the next exhibit which is another text exchange a few minutes later between ambassador sondland and you, ambassador volker where ambassador sond said to avoid misunderstandings, might be...

Sondland says morrison, ready to get dates as soon as umack concerns. you reply excellent. how did you sway him? ambassador sondland says not sure i did. i think potus really wants deliverable. the deliverable here was a public announcement that ukraine was going to conduct investigations into burisma and allege 2016 election interference by ukraine, is that correct, sir? >> thank you. i understood the deliverable to be the statement that we had been talking about. >> on august 13th, you and ambassador sondland discussed a draft statement from ukraine with mr. giuliani. sir, why did you discus...

Still failed to include the specific words burisma and 2016, giuliani said the statement would lack credibility. ambassador volker then added both burisma and 2016 to the draft statement. though they were by late july aware that the security systems have been cut off at the direction of the president and acting white house chief of staff mick mulvaney. as the ukrainians became aware of the suspension of security assistance and that negotiations over the scheduling of the white house meeting between trump and zelensky dragged on, the pressure increased and any pretense that there was no linkage...

Yourself know what ambassador sondland meant by "the deliverable?" >> i did not at the time. i think i have an understanding out. >> and what is your understanding out? >> there seems to have been discussions about a statement which have been discussed in various proceedings. >> but this to your knowledge was part of a parallel process that you're talking about? >> yes. >> if we could go to the next exhibit which is another text exchange just a few minutes later between ambassador sondland and you, ambassador volker where ambassador sondland says, to avoid misunderstandings, it might be helpfu...