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The united states or through the intelligence command structure to say that we're only finding out now that the chinese have put balloons up on some of our territory in the past? in this particular case i think that they were right to say, let's wait and see what intelligence we can collect on this particular instrument. whether you call it an airship or a spy craft, what were they trying to collect? i have guesses on this, i'm not part of the intelligence community. but i suspect they were hovering over our icbm ites to collect as much information about communications taking place at that sit...

They are type of horrible crimes peoplewh say could never happen to him, it was my job to profile her kidnapper who was making taunting calls to her family. h in quantico i am in my office. in this case, i talked to sherri's mom to give her guidance in drawing information out of the caller. >> i said i think i could get him to communicate. explain to her what i wanted to do and how to keep him on the phone. using techniques and hostage negotiations, power phrasing, restatement of content, stalling for time. >> hello? >> hello this is -- >> i need to speak to your

It was my job to profile her kidnapper who was making taunting calls to her family. back at quantico, i'm in my office. we often consulted by phone before heading to crime scenes to assist local authorities. in this case, i talked to shari's mom to give her some guidance in drawing information out of the caller. and i say, mrs. smith, i said, i think i can get this guy to communicate. i spent time with her, explained to her what i wanted to do, explained to her how to keep him on the phone using the techniques in hostage negotiation, power phrasing, restatement of content, and stalling for tim...

Says word is that tells you that he's drawing information from somewhere else. >> from somebody. somebody has told him something. and that's what mueller's people wanted to know, because that puts him right into the soup of the staging and releasing of the documents which puts him into that conspiracy. >> if it was as bad as that, why would mueller offer him a plea only on false statements? which we know because jerome corsi leaked it and told me about. >> because they hope and they thought he could testify to his role in the conspiracy, stone's role in the conspiracy and other people's role. ...

He's drawing information from somewhere else. >> from somebody. somebody has told him something. and that's what mueller's people wanted to know, because that puts him right into the soup of the staging and releasing of the documents which puts him into that conspiracy. >> if it was as bad as that, why would mueller offer him a plea only on false statements? >> because they hope and they thought he could testify to his role in the conspiracy, stone's role in the conspiracy and other people's role. >> if the mueller folks had better evidence, they could indict on that without his testimony. are...