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Drums file, just raking norms made progress, too much ceremony, we don't get enough and the stakes are too high. final thoughts? >> the career state department is all about the journey, not the destination and one of the things i argue is we need more political appointees, not less the way the media argues because the political appointees want to get the job done and get out and go back to their real lives. career people want to take a journey on the taxpayer dime. brian: and you didn't. i found it fascinating to transfer success in diplomacy. thanks so much. pick up the envoy. >> thanks for h...

Drums file, just raking norms made progress, too much ceremony, we don't get enough and the stakes are too high. final thoughts? >> the career state department is all about the journey, not the destination and one of the things i argue is we need more political appointees, not less the way the media argues because the political appointees want to get the job done and get out and go back to their real lives. career people want to take a journey on the taxpayer dime. brian: and you didn't. i found it fascinating to transfer success in diplomacy. thanks so much. pick up the envoy. >> thanks for h...

Drums file, just raking norms made progress, too much ceremony, we don't get enough and the stakes are too high. final thoughts? >> the career state department is all about the journey, not the destination and one of the things i argue is we need more political appointees, not less the way the media argues because the political appointees want to get the job done and get out and go back to their real lives. career people want to take a journey on the taxpayer dime. brian: and you didn't. i found it fascinating to transfer success in diplomacy. thanks so much. pick up the envoy. >> thanks for h...

Drums file, just raking norms made progress, too much ceremony, we don't get enough and the stakes are too high. final thoughts? >> the career state department is all about the journey, not the destination and one of the things i argue is we need more political appointees, not less the way the media argues because the political appointees want to get the job done and get out and go back to their real lives. career people want to take a journey on the taxpayer dime. brian: and you didn't. i found it fascinating to transfer success in diplomacy. thanks so much. pick up the envoy. >> thanks for h...