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Paid." giuliani's lawyer, robert costello, who was on the call then, interjected, "he's joking." i know because i've talked to your fellow former prosecutors at the southern district of new york, rudy's picture as former u.s. attorney remains on the wall there prominently so. they are the investigating arm in this case. how much jeopardy does he face as of right now tonight? >> i think if the southern district of new york is looking into you, you're facing a lot of jeopardy. it's never a good day if the prosecutors from the southern district start bigging through a case to see if there is evid...

Really needed to watch my back. she also testified to having powerful adversaries working against her in ukraine. trump lawyer rudy giuliani and his ginow-indicted associates l and igor. at yesterday's hearing, top diplomats george kent and william taylor, who replaced yovanovitch, by the way, describe the effort to oust her. >> over the course of 2018 and 2019, i became increasingly aware ofbe an effort by rudy giuliani and foothers, includin his associates lev parnas and igor fruman, to run a campaign to smear ambassador yovanovitch and other officials at the embassyr in kiev. >> formerss am...

Threat. i think if they can keep up that side of the narrative, of really driving home why not only the senate should care about this, but the house should care about this, but why the public should care about this and how this is a threat to the united states, i think that will be continuing in the right direction. >> always a pleasure to have you, berit berger. thank you so much. coming up, nikki haley has made a lot of glowing statements of late about president trump, and now her kindness seems, in fact, to extend to rudy giuliani, when we come back. d t giuliani, when we come back. healt...

Ambassador yovanovitch can speak to and fit into it. >> yeah, so, she really expands the timeline. as you discussed earlier in the program, she doesn't have much knowledge about what happened in the call. what she can talk about is sort of what happened before that. she can show that this was part of a broader picture, that she was really the target of this smear campaign by giuliani and others that were part of this irregular foreign policy chain that we heard about. >> that's a euphemism if i've ever heard one. >> exactly. not outlandish, just irregular. but she can really talk about what sh...

The misdeeds of people that you know. and if lev parnas is cooperating, that would probably include everything he knows about giuliani, everything he knows about this entire ukraine scandal. >> dan goldman, a fellow graduate of the southern district of new york, was the civilian attorney doing the questioning yesterday. we have every reason to believe he'll be there tomorrow. i'm assuming you believe that the insertion of civilian lawyers is good for pacing and fact-gathering, and to get it away from filibustering potentially members of congress. >> absolutely. and dan really led a master clas...