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Ambassador yovanovitch can speak to and fit into it. >> yeah, so, she really expands the timeline. as you discussed earlier in the program, she doesn't have much knowledge about what happened in the call. what she can talk about is sort of what happened before that. she can show that this was part of a broader picture, that she was really the target of this smear campaign by giuliani and others that were part of this irregular foreign policy chain that we heard about. >> that's a euphemism if i've ever heard one. >> exactly. not outlandish, just irregular. but she can really talk about what sh...

She's saying these are the facts and this is the law that we would think they would go with. this is the specific basis for which these could lead to impeachment. >> and remind us what subset of the case ambassador -- former ambassador yovanovitch can speak to and fit into. >> yes, so, she really expands the time line. as you discussed earlier in the program she doesn't have much knowledge about what happened in the call. but what she can talk about is sort of what happened before that. she can show this was part of a broader picture, that she was really the target of this smear campaign by gi...

"post," secretary perry has been leaning toward moving toward the exit for quite some time. the question now he faces is will he comply with the congressional subpoena. maybe he would be in a different position if he's outside of government to make a decision on his own rather than worrying about the administration's assertion of executive privilege. >> robert, i am curious about what you make of perry's role in all this. he has now been, as i suggested before, he's part of this three amigos as someone kind of running the ukraine policy kind of off the books not as part of the normal diplomati...