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Ducking it is a little extraordinary. >> well, not really. he was wherever he was, and it's up to the marshal service to find him and serve him in an appropriate way. so i don't know why that's an issue. >> it's not an issue legally unless he was really extending the purpose -- >> that's what i'm here to talk about is the law. that's what i'm here for. >> i understand, but this is -- >> he was served, he accepted service, and now that process is complete. >> right. he didn't make it easy, though. and it does sound like he's -- >> there's no law requirement that says he has to make it easy any ...

That says he has to make it easy any more than a person in a civil suit has to or anyone else. the congress has the capability to find people and serve them properly according to the rules, and that's what they finally did. >> well, here's the constructive argument. the constructive argument is those who have nothing to hide comply. they don't try to duck service, and they don't try to -- >> no. >> -- not work with congress. so what is your understanding in terms of whether your client is going to offer up documents and testimony? >> well, the president has asserted privilege over the document...