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Interview. he said he did not thoroughly check all of the chambers on that gun. he also, you know, talked about hannah gutierrez reed and said it would be her responsibility to roll the chamber to make sure there was nothing in there. >> right. just hearing that for the first time then, he stated that he saw three rounds in the cylinder and didn't check the rest begs the question were those three rounds actually live as well. unless you know the difference in how to properly check them, which generally especially if they are a dummy round, which is a round that looks identical to a real round ...

Noticed the rounds that had holes in them so in my experience, it not very common onset to have dummy rounds that have a hole but what they can do is drill a hole right through the side of it and lets people know that it's a dummy round. so that would be duressed into the cylinder of the revolver. >> jeffrey, i have to go. what happens next? >> there will be trehree investigations. you have osha looking to see if safety regulations were followed. you have the criminal investigation and presumably, if the family decides to do so, there will be a civil investigation. all of those work on paralle...

Responsibility? >> onset maybe the only place in america where a person picks up a gun may not be expected to know or believe that it's dangerous. by that i mean an actor onset is there to act, he relies on the armor and the first assistant director to make sure the firearm or the prop or whoever that was handed to him. on a movie set, you have the first assistant director who's generally in charge of safety, he or she conducts safety meetings, they are the bosses of keeping the sets safe. when you have firearms, you have an armor and a chain of custody is that the armor handles the weapon fro...

And load it into the firearm once the first ad told us that we were ready to do that. >> assistant director. >> correct. >> so now, we were shooting with you the other day as i said and you emphasized the only two terms that people should be hearing are hot gun and cold gun. what do each of those terms mean? >> so in the motion -- motion-picture industry, we have our own language, if you will. and two of those terms are cold gun and hot gun. a cold gun means that the gun is empty. it cannot fire. there might be dummies in it. but it cannot go bang. a hot gun means that it is ready to fire with...

Just so i'm clear, if somebody has a dummy round in and the gun is very close to them, could that potentially injure somebody? >> no, no, let me -- let me be clear. the dummy cartridge is totally inert. it's the blank cartridge that makes the smoke and the muzzle flash. >> so, sorry, i used the wrong terminology. if it's the blank cartridge, the smoke and the muzzle flash. i mean, if someone's holding that up to their head or in close proximity, that is something that they would avoid doing? >> sure. in the -- the safety guidelines, it clearly states that minimum safety distance in front of a ...