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The room so that we could on the same page. If people feel there is no longer a need to do that i am open to do that but i am surprised to see if things have changed and we dont need that anymore so i am open to what counsel said but i would also say this i would have a problem if we cant do a joint meeting in january. I dont see why we wouldnt be able to do a joint meeting in january. I dont think i think that if the puc is really committed to this and is making it a priority we will have a meeting in january. I guess if we dont it will show the level of the lack of commitment on the part of ...

Thank you. Commissioner lindo. First i want to thank counsel for suggesting the plan and perhaps having a separate meeting. I think its a good idea for us to have an action, a vote, to have a presentation that we can then give to the puc and say this is how we see this plan working, and this is what we offer to you, and after having a discussion with enernex and a discussion internally to say what is it that we want . Because if we start discussing it the way i see it with puc it starts changing before our eyes and i would like us to have something solid because there is room to move a little ...

As City Projects goes, city and county and then also on a state wide level just so that were holding cleanpowersf accountable to the state or the enernex report as to pertains to cleanpowersf in the same method and reporting standards that we do for all others. And i think mr. Fried referred that the enernex methodology and the actual model that the City Controllers Office uses, the controller ted eagon uses when he puts together information theyre not the same model but they have similar methodologies and i dont know if mr. Eagon was considered whether he considers it apples to apples or mixi...

Able to have some specific questions, and that maybe a board issue. The board may have direction there. I think that i appreciate that, and i do i would like to see on the staff level some sort of mr. Fried to keep me at least i am sure other commissioners posted on the resolution with the puc about the issues of the report, and whether or not there can or cant be a resolution; right . Because there maybe items that are in the report that at this point cant be changed or there wont be an agreement in some instances, so i want to know when we get to a point of resolving whatever the issues are ...

Yes, there is going to be some guessing involved in that because pg e can change their rates 46 times a year. There is going to be a little bit of guessing and perhaps go below of what the rate is in case they decide its going to be cheap now. So we go out there and start that part of the program and for lack of better terms get it towards launch and as harlin kelly was mentioning the deep green is where we have to figure out how to do that and that might take a little bit more time to figure out. Maybe we do two tracks of setting rights. One for light green. If we wait a month for launching d...