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Face a vigorous primary, especially with so many people in the democratic party telling bernie sanders to hold his fire. he did for the most part. >> i think the '08 primaries were as much as tougher. >> sure. >> he dropped the e-mail question. >> he did, but we can get -- that's more of the fall of the press than hillary or bernie. >> was unresolved. >> without going into that, again -- what about her e-mails? this is the argument -- i know there's a lot of democrats who hate the democrats fighting. >> i frankly have been surprised at what harris seems to be so unprepared for predictable line...

Direct questions in this interview and frankly didn't answer them and now, you know, now it has the risk of becoming, you know, the -- the iraq question for jeb bush or the email question for hillary clinton, and, you know, i think it's good for her keep getting these questions and try to find an answer that will put this to rest for her. >> another little jump back in the inside politics way back ma she be because it has been two years. i'm not sure anyone has answered this question. what does covfefe. who can figure out the true meaning of covfefe. have at it, folks. we'll be right back. oh!...

Upon them for our democracy. >> and tom, this is based on mostly very public behavior by the president. this wasn't, or i guess what is cited in "the new york times" piece, were not things that were just kind of clandestine operations or alleged clandestine operations, but this is out in the public, nearly self-inflicted, that the president's behavior or actions would precipitate from the nbc interview, saying, fire him because of the russia thing, to being on the campaign trail, and saying russia, you know, if you're listening, you know, hack these emails. shouldn't those things be alarming? ...

Haphazard system of having -- starting to actually govern, and now almost two years in they're still grappling with something that should have been addressed long ago. >> david, i think my reaction is a little bit of what john was just saying there in terms of if -- one of the sort of fundamental bases of the trump campaign in 2016 was this e-mail question. they're pointing to all these distinctions in the statement here, but how would you not be on top of that from the very beginning after running that kind of campaign? >> i mean, it's sloppy. it's definitely a problem. but let's be really cl...

Repeated response, it's been not good compare to past crises. >> one other thing that was revealed this week, that the president's son-in-law and top adviser jared kushner did not reveal to the senate intelligence committee about use of a private e-mail to do the public's business. and we all know that that was what candidate trump expressed outrage repeatedly even since being president over hillary clinton. so, bottom line about this administration, where do you see the top issue? is it over organization, is it over ethics? >> if it's one thing, i don't know. >> there are so many problems rig...