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Manafort because he could get out of going to jail for a long time because they have a good case against him based on documentation and receipts and wire transfers. >> and e-mail. >> and it doesn't depend on testimony of people. what if manafort doesn't know enough? in other words do you think mueller knows that manafort knows a lot because if he doesn't have something to trade off, he is in big trouble. >> yeah. but if manafort didn't know anything, he would make it very clear. but i think that -- for example, take this beating -- >> this june 9th meeting. >> at the trump tower. everybody sai...

Of john pa test that's private account totaling more than 50,000 e-mails. once again the source of the e-mail troll was wikileaks, and democrats as well as the u.s. intelligence committee suspected the release had been timed for maximum impact. >> do you have any doubts those two events that day, the access hollywood tapes and after hearing e-mails -- >> well, it's a massive coincidence that they would chose to pull the trigger on a friday evening when they've been sitting on it for a while. >> no i have nothing to say about wikileaks other than i think we should be concerned about what the ru...