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Are still talking. Nbc news has confirmed when former nypd commissioner will meet with prosecutors. What his lawyer told us. A whole lot of questions and a whole lot to talk about. Lets start with reporting. Ryan riley is outside District Courthouse in d. C. Ken dilanian is at the justice department. Here in new york, dasha burns and lisa ruben. Also with us is former prosecutor, david aaron. We know the grand jury broke for lunch. They came back. Now they appear to have left for the day. Bring us up to speed. Yeah. I think the critical takeaway from this is we did not see the grand jury forep...

Involving donald trump. but this investigation i would argue is different and we're going to, if we see an indictment, it may well be a speaking indictment and may speak to the historical nature of this. the first time if it's the charges we believe are under consideration, a former president would have been charged with trying to overturn the lawful results of an election. arguably more serious than what richard nixon was impeached for. we're in a much different place today. different news media and body politic and divisions with greater. we shouldn't lose sight of the e normty of this momen...

There. so when you look to that, in the event that he's convicted, you're going to see years and years added on to the time here. this is one moment in time he has a right, certainly a presumption to innocence, like anybody else has. as to this case, he's lost that right to pru esumption of innocence. but these two other cases could add more time to the time he's facing already as it relates to the extortion charge of mike, the judge sentencing him to today. in terms of the guidelines, he made out extraordinarily well when you have the prosecutor wants much more time than that, and probation r...