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Never get to a 21st-century economy. you know, there's two things that -- that we desperately need to think about. is that we need to think about -- um -- the economy, in terms of more people is always better. that's how a gdp it grows, right? it's a very practical concept. that econ 101, if you will. that we need to build the economy, with people. >> could i ask you to respond to one of the concerns that critics of the reconciliation bill have? just to ask it very simply, what does a pathway to citizenship have to do with infrastructure? >> because we need more people to produce more jobs to ...

These who are trying to flip the script thomas. >> melissa: she's like a very anger professor whose class i dropped out of. i don't know. "free stuff! we aren't going to say that anymore! close to what you think about that? >> steve: is a pretty easy way overdue not be accused of offering free stuff, is a stop off and people free stuff. that's what she's doing. she can call it public goods make an argument that she wants from econ 101. but there's free stuff. it's tuition free college. that's free stuff. >> melissa: you call it a public good, but there's a price to it. that's a problem. she ca...

Lying. less than one-tenth, her wealth tax that's not going to touch the middle class, it's going to raise one-tenth the taxes to pay for this government takeover debacle. she is lying! any econ 101 student can figure it out if they took their blinders off.teases a joke whats talking about. 7 >> that's not unique to democrats. i think that all these politicians lie, the deficit has gone up under president trump. >> nope.not like this. >> deficits don't matter. it'll be the little things that sink her.'t >> sean: 36 trillion in ten years? 36 trillion in ten years. americans can do math. a secon...

>> thanks very much. joining me now victoria defrancesco soto at university of texas austin and an msnbc political analyst, and todd schulte, president of forward u.s., business and tech leaders committed to meaningful criminal justice reform. victoria, let me start with you. at the first level, to me, what's striking here is a, the trump properties haven't been raided. b, the employers in mississippi apparently face no sanction. and c, when trump is acting as a person, he doesn't view these people as a threat at all. >> it's econ 101, chris, in terms folks come here to the united states to ...

At the first level, to me, what's striking here is a, the trump properties haven't been raided. b, the employers in mississippi apparently face no sanction. and c, when trump is acting as a person, he doesn't view these people as a threat at all. >> it's econ 101, chris, in terms folks come here to the united states to work, migrants come here, because there is a demand, because there is your trump organizations. there is your organizations in mississippi that need poultry processing workers. so there is a demand by the employers. that's why they're coming. if there wasn't a demand, they would...