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>> thanks very much. joining me now victoria defrancesco soto at university of texas austin and an msnbc political analyst, and todd schulte, president of forward u.s., business and tech leaders committed to meaningful criminal justice reform. victoria, let me start with you. at the first level, to me, what's striking here is a, the trump properties haven't been raided. b, the employers in mississippi apparently face no sanction. and c, when trump is acting as a person, he doesn't view these people as a threat at all. >> it's econ 101, chris, in terms folks come here to the united states to ...

At the first level, to me, what's striking here is a, the trump properties haven't been raided. b, the employers in mississippi apparently face no sanction. and c, when trump is acting as a person, he doesn't view these people as a threat at all. >> it's econ 101, chris, in terms folks come here to the united states to work, migrants come here, because there is a demand, because there is your trump organizations. there is your organizations in mississippi that need poultry processing workers. so there is a demand by the employers. that's why they're coming. if there wasn't a demand, they would...