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The eu needs all member nations to agree on the measure, but some diplomats say it'd include exceptions for the two countries. von der leyen noted more work is needed to strengthen regional cooperation on oil infrastructure. >> ed luce, help me understand why we consider orban an ally. a man who has declared war against western democracy, liberal democracy. proudly said to his people he thought it was possible to build an illiberal state, an autocratic state within the eu. >> yeah, this dates back a while. when angela merkel was germany's leader, she had an opportunity to expel viktor orban's ...

>> the white house, certainly, as we reported, didn't believe putin could escalate the war on victory day. there was no way to do so. officials i spoke to yesterday took note of his rather subdued appearance there in red square. i think there are a couple things at play here. as the white house tries to keep their foot on the gas to help ukraine, to make sure russia can't revive any part of their assault here. as ed mentioned, the president signed that lend-lease act yesterday. also, importantly, yesterday the president announced his support for decoupling this massive ukraine aid package from...

U.s. recession, than they would have otherwise had to have raised them if they had spotted this sooner. >> ed luce, "how the fed lost the plot," you can find that in the "financial times." hagar, thank you very much for coming on, as well. we appreciate you both. still ahead on "morning joe," pentagon press secretary john kirby is our guest on the heels of that reporting about how u.s. intel played a role in the sinking of a russian warship. plus, what the draft ruling on abortion could mean for lgbtq americans. we'll read from jonathan capehart's timely new piece for the "washington post....

On sunday, including tatiana, who was hiding underground for two months. i'm terribly worried about the civilians and wounded soldiers still there, she says. an adviser to president zelenskyy claimed the russians want to declare victory in mariupol by may 9th, when russia celebrates its defeat of the nazis in world war ii. russia denies the claim. as the battle rages for mariupol's steel plant, those who fled wait and hope. anna is six months pregnant. i wanted my child to be born in mariupol, she says. we bought an apartment. we were fixing it up. we just never thought we'd be in this situati...

-- mutual. we have hundreds of satellites that monitor russia's nuclear activity. we can see that. we have just as much strength on that side. they do know that. that said, we haven't talked about a nuclear war or the threat of nuclear war this much in decades. that's something to be said. so the fact is, we have to monitor it closely. you always have a threat, i think, of nuclear weapons being used in ukraine. >> ed luce, i want to jump to another topic because you've written about the fed and the recent rate hike. you say that, in a way, the fed has lost the plot in all of this, especially a...