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Voters' minds, look at the polls so far. 9% have a negative impression of bain. 20% have a relatively positive one. >> other way around. 9%, 19% negative. >> they don't flow it yeknow it. were the democrats are. >> david, seems the response of republicans when it comes to bain now is simply look at all the democrats that want to praise bain. they're not -- they haven't answered this, frankly, what i would call the nuance charts that the president articulated monday in chicago and the vice president. they haven't answered that and they need to. >> have to answer it and do it well. i'd say that ...

Very well, is not the president's job. that doesn't mean the private equity guys are bad guys. they're not. but that no more qualifies you to be president than being a plumber. it doesn't -- by the way, a lot of smart plumbers. totally legitimate for the president to point this out. >> very expensive to hire a plumber sometimes. anyway, bring in the panel. "washington post," and editor david drucker. always snappily dressed and "usa today" washington bureau chief susan paige. values versus skill. values argument. joe biden doubling down on the values argument. seems we know know where they're ...