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>> honesty coming from this president. one challenge that president trump has with the press, he will say things that are just not true. then when the press calls him on, let's move on. that's not what i was talking. that's difficult. but the key point here is you are hearing today from the editor pages of newspapers, not the news side. >> still a conscious decision on the part of the newspaper to do this. do you think it was a stunt? >> i don't think it has much persuasion. bill is right. in a couple of days no one will remember this. >> you and bill talking about it on the "story" and "the f...

Post-debate, you know, survey of the american -- of the americans, real clear politics has been in second place but that may not be the relevant thing to look to now. the buzz in terms of editor pages and online is progingrich now. do you think that moment could have really done something for him? >> well, you know, megyn, to be in the hall that the moment, i can tell you, it was like a canon shot in there. you could feel the energy explode in that hall. what newt gingrich does that republicans like is he articulates a conservative point of view in a way that they believe does honor and credit...