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This election will be a turnout election. to that extent the people who are committed turnout. what was the message delivered to the voters for the turn out. neil: the education issue has grown to be an interesting one in that state. whether mcauliffe realized it when he dismissed the role parents should play in their kids education, his opponents pounded that and it really has been an election changing issue. i wonder if it carries the republican candidate all the way? >> several things. education has always been key in any election. the more important thing, what

But i think what we're seeing here is sort of the nationalization of this governor's race and the weight of the lack of results in washington over the past couple of months and the debates around that, having an impact down ballot. that's why what the president did yesterday is so important. and what the democrats in congress do next is so important because that could shift the atmospherics everywhere else. whether or not it is in time to help mccauliffe is the question. >> bill: back to the question, ed, the clip we rolled with mccauliffe asked about the education issue and said it was signif...

Afraid to go to the polls because they were afraid to catch covid, and now they are dependent upon that. like he is lost in a corn maze or something. >> sean: mark, how do you analyze the early voting? >> again, i think this is all about parents and education. i think when you look at what is happening here, the suburban parents, particularly dads, are the ones that appear to be switching their vote, you know, from the democrat to the republican, as a result of this education issue. and obviously, the early vote is not showing the kind of lead and turn out and enthusiasm that you would get bec...

Where they need to be, getting voters to vote. they spent two years being afraid to go to the polls because they were afraid to catch covid, and now they are dependent upon that. like he is lost in a corn maze or something. >> sean: mark, how do you analyze the early voting? >> well, again, i think this is all about parents and education. i think when you look at what is happening here, the suburban parents, particularly dads, arer the ones that appear to be switching their vote, you know from the democrat to theto republican, as a result of this education issue. and obviously, the early vote ...

Of course it's not partisan, it's all just a coincidence that school boards are overwhelmingly liberal. and what about this underlying evidence? is there really a growing national threat posed against the school boards? committee chair dick durbin was reaching for anything. >> those who argue at school board meetings across america are not more dangerous or more violent than the past. i went on i just typed in this morning, school board violence on one of the search engines, page after pages coming up. >> laura: 24 years in the senate ladies and gentlemen, and he is just and entering terms int...