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Think people in the tea party think that they're paying the bill or not paying the bill, or do you think they're saying yes or no to spending, the way they look at it? >> oh, yeah. i think what they think is they're looking at a different set of polls that say a significant portion of the american electorate cares a lot about deficit reduction. the problem is none of those polls take in isolation, particularly in these incredibly gerrymandered district, really talk to a larger question. nia is completely right. the obama people have continued polling, polling, polling, polling. and they feel l...

Look at it? >> oh, yeah. i think what they think is they're looking at a different set of polls that say a significant portion of the american electorate cares a lot about deficit reduction. the problem is none of those polls take in isolation, particularly in these incredibly gerrymandered district, really talk to a larger question. nia is completely right. the obama people have continued polling, polling, polling, polling. and they feel like they have the public on their side. and their choice of words. for instance, yesterday the president talked about education. education polls really well...

To raise the debt ceiling. it resonates to people who can understand the debate in their own language in some ways. >> glenn, do you think the people in the tea party are paying the bill or not paying the bill or saying yes to spending? the way they look at it. >> i think what they think is they're looking at a different set of polls that say a significant portion of the electorate cares about deficit reduction. the problem is none of those polls are taken in isolation. i think nia is completely right. the obama people have continued polling, polling, polling, polling. and they feel they've go...