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But i hope she gets in there tonight. otherwise we might not see her stick it out. >> and kirstin you think this is a big night for. >> she is somebody also who during the kavanaugh hearings people were taking a second look at her. she was impressive. it was big for kamala also. kamala has been able to capitalize on that. it was rose rose in the polls with the great debate performance. amy klobuchar needs to do that. what's looming over this of course if you are in the moderate hoon lane is joe biden. it's like why you and not joe biden. you sort of have to establish why, a, we need a moderate...

Fantastic group. anderson? >> erin, tahanks very much. nia mallika, do these labels matter? they said don't focus on labels, it's table top issues. >> and tom perez says everybody will be a democrat on the stage at some point. the party needs to come together. i'm interested in as we talk about the splits in the party, we're going to see a real generational split tonight, as well. we have pete buttigieg on stage and tim ryan from ohio. what argument do they make in terms of where the party should be? you saw in the last debate eric swalwell trying to make it in a clumsy way shouting at joe bid...

Electability. maybe he'll go all in and take it on and answer the question. when you look at two of them, the reason she's rising is because she has a lot of his policies but electab electable. >> the governor says he'll watch. he says he sees four or five that's drawing the line at 6% because he wants to know who he is running against. >> good, i'm glad. i hope they punch him hard so he knows and feels the pain. my guess is, i want to go back to what you were talking about a second ago about this issue of electability. democrats are freaked out by this president. we are fed up with this presi...

Anything beautiful he could get back in the lead. >> that's what he needs. jess mcintosh you spent time with the clinton campaign. >> i did. >> we have to make itclear to the viewers the next debate is not having 20 people. it has half that. a lot of the people are going away. >> i mean, we are going to be in near single digits if not single digits by the september debate. that means everybody is isn't one of the top five candidates tonight and tomorrow really needs to have a moment. the two biggest tonight i think are beto and amy klobuchar. amy started out -- one of the most liked, beloved ...

Tonight light it up. >> thank you. as we get ready of course for the program tonight we don't often taken music breaks here -- debates -- music breaks we have an amazing choir here from the state of michigan. but when it comes to bullock, you think this is -- he is not a household name. >> right. >> in a state that voted for trump. >> right. he can make the case. >> he has won in a red state. . can he make that case in a way that has him break out. >> a lot of the others try to make it too. but he has unique case because it went for trump by 30, 20 points. >> and he still won. >> yes. and he h...