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4%, 5%, she's someone else. >> should joe biden be worried? >> i would absolutely think so. he started out in the lead in iowa, now he's at best in 20%. in this poll he's only at 17%. i would say he'd be worried. i think one of the most difficult things to recognize is sometimes momentum forwards or backwards, it doesn't necessarily keep on occurring. there's no such thing in my mind as momentum in politics. it could be possible that he repounds into the 20s and based upon how many candidates that may be good enough. >> he is winning the electability argument. i also want to ask about beto o'r...

Around the state. they're pitching themselves to likely voters there trying to make some head way. >> yeah, but it's mayor pete buttigieg who is making a lot of news after his speech last night. cnn's jeff zeleny is joining us from des moines. late night, early morning for you, jeff. give us the headlines. >> reporter: hey, good morning, victor and christy. it was a late night but there were a lot of iowa democrats who were so interested in hearing what the parade of candidates had to say. of course, there were 13 candidates speaking. beto o'rourke dropped out of the race right before the dinn...

You've got biden and warren center stage. they've both been rising in the polls. so two questions, your advice to them. one, what can biden do to stop warren having the big m.o. and what can warren do to show folks she could be a credible general election candidate and not just popular with the progressive base? >> you know what's interesting, despite the intense interest in these debates so far, the needle hasn't really moved as to where they stand. the race has not been shaken up thus far although the betting markets in contrast to the polling data suggests actually it's elizabeth warren who...

A radio station. a new fox poll shows that joe biden seems to be doing okay in the latest poll come up ten points on elizabeth warren. further on bernie sanders. if you asked the question, what about your second choice? it's tied between elizabeth warren and joe biden. are you surprised? >> i'm a little surprised because there has been so much of the press about how warren is charging. if i was joe biden's campaign i would be very pleased with this result because -- it's general consent to my consensus he hasn't had a good few weeks. this hunter biden story has hurt him a little bit and warran...

She will have to make the electability argument. somebody who believes or favors mandatory medicare for all dee decriminalizing legal border crossings win a general election? >> bret: we will be at the debate next week in ohio. thank you, panel. when we come back, kindred spirits here in the white house. ♪ house. seeing what people left behind in the attic. well, saving on homeowners insurance with geico's help was pretty fun too. ahhhh, it's a tiny dancer. they left a ton of stuff up here. welp, enjoy your house. nope. no thank you. geico could help you save on homeowners and renters insura...