we begin this hour with a developing story in moscow. russian law enforcement has arrested two men suspected of involvement in the murder of boris nemtsov. that is according to the director of the federal security service who was quoted in russian state media. he says the two suspects were taken into custody earlier and russian president vladmir putin has been informed of the arrests. he also said the two men came from the southern region of the north caucus. that it was one week ago you ll remember that nemtsov was gunned down near the kremlin. we will continue to keep your updated on this story as we get more information here an cnn. to the front lines in the fight against isis. hundreds of thousands innocent civilians in certain potentially caught in the cross fire. 350,000 peat in one town are under siege. across the border in iraq there is progress. shia militia reclaimed the town on the southern outskirts of tikrit on friday. that victory is seen as a key step towards pushing isis out of tikrit. the u.s. military says iraqi force and tribal fighters aided by coalition air strikes have also cleared isis from al baghdadi. that is a strategically critical town. the u.s. says iraqi forces also drove isis from seven villages near al baghdadi. that s located south of hadithi. some u.s. leaders are nervous. barbara starr has the story. reporter: the latest u.s. military intelligence assessment most of the fighters here are iranian backed shia militia with iranian weapons fighting to reclaim the city of tikrit. signs of iran s influence everywhere, field commanders review their plans. the pentagon watching iran with a close eye. happy to have the iranians doing the bulk of the ground fighting. but worried it could again open up a cauldron of shia versus sunni violence. for the sunni and shia sectarianism that has happened for thousands of years, it could be strategically disastrous. reporter: u.s. officials also worry the fragile iraqi government in the long run will become a client state of tehran with the u.s. spending millions to train iraqi units, the risk is it all falls into iranian hands. in terms of insuring our resources don t migrate to shia militia, there s no easy way to be absolutely certain that kaenlt happen. reporter: inu.s. want the prime minister to guarantee a government and military with sunni representation. vital to stopping sunni support for isis. the prime minister announcing his security forces are launching new operations in the sunni heartland. iraq s reliance on iran apparently working south of tikrit which baghdad says has been liberated. a potential u.s. victory of sorts. these marines in western iraq helping advise iraqis the nearby town of al baghdadi now liberated from isis according to the coalition. just don t count on the u.s. joining forces with iran. there is no cooperation between us and the iranian forces. we re going to have the count on the iraqi government to do those things necessary to number one, insure that things don t trend towards greater sectarian violence. reporter: there may not be formal cooperation with iran but a senior u.s. military official tells me that when coalition war planes are in the skies, when they are flying those bombing missions the u.s. tells the iraqis where the planes are and relies on the iraqis to tell the iranians to stay away. barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. just as advances are being made on the ground against isis the terror group has managed to destroy cultural artifacts. officials say they bull dozed an ancient city. some are calling this a cultural clenz clensing by isis they destroy iraq s history and heritage. it s a huge loss and tragedy for the whole of humanity. of course my reaction is one of anger. because we do believe that the destruction of heritage the deliberate i would say destruction of heritage in iraq is become part of the affair. it s a part of a strategy of cultural cleansing that they are conducting already with the looting of sites and persecution of minorities attacks on people and destroying the incredible cultural diversity of iraq and also of its priceless heritage. i think the way they conduct their strategy of erasing the memory about culture and heritage is appalling. that incident comes just a week after isis destroyed artifacts in the mosul museum. let s turn now to the town of ferguson missouri in the united states. president barack obama is responding to a scathing report by the justice department that found rampant racism in the city s police department. two police officers resigned over racist e-mails one of which depicted the president as a chimp h. a top court clerk was also fired. investigation started after a white officers killed an unarmed african-american teenager. police in madison, wisconsin, are investigating the fatal shooting of an unarmed african-american teenager by one of their officers. the madison police chief says the officer entered a home while responding to a disturbance and that s when he was assaulted. the officer fired several shots, hitting the teen. a crowd then gathered outside the apartment where the teen was shot. we understand they later dispersed. police are asking the community to remain calm. we would urge that everybody exercise restraint. and some calm. and let us allow the department of criminal investigation to conduct their affairs. we will all await what they re investigative fact finding should reflect. police say the officer rendered first aid before the teen was transferred to the hospital. that is where he later died. 50 years ago today, hundreds of marchers marched peacefully from selma, alabama, to montgomery to demand rights to vote for african-americans. civil rights leader martin luther king jr. led marchers on a bridge where they were attacked. that day now lives in u.s. history known as bloody sunday. president barack obama and more than 100 members of the u.s. congress will be in selma today to mark that anniversary. the first event is in about three hours. a freedom foot soldiers children s breakfast will happen then. there is also a commenceumenerative walk to honor civil rights marchers from 1967. the pettus bridge played an important role in the fight for civil rights. it was a way for police and am men to deputize by the sheriff to ambush and attack them. cnn s ryan young has this story. reporter: it s a bridge now just as important for what it brings together than for what it kept apart. from above, you can see the ed edmund pettus bridge stretch across the alabama leader. named after a confederate general, u.s. senator and a high ranking member of the kuklux klan. i had no identity there was a possibility of violence. selma gave so much to america and the world. this bridge is a powerful piece of metal for so many across the country. when you stand here you can t see what s on the other side of the bridge. the protesters had no idea what they were walking toward. their walk changed the future of this country. the images that were beamed across the country, the video that helped everywhere understand the struggle for the civil rights movement. a movement that got its wings because of what happened here. i heard what i thought were gun shots and screams. and people just screaming and screaming. reporter: joe ann bland was just a child when she marched on sunday. before we turned to run, it was too late. the policemen came in from both sides, the front and the back and there was nowhere to go. i tried to walk across i couldn t. reporter: it s a painful memory she shares with people. a memory she s found a way to embrace despite the horror and sounds of that sunday. i saw this horse and lady and i don t know what happened. i can still hear the sound her head made when it hit the pavement. and my sister linda, and my sister sady both think it was my hit hitting the pavement. reporter: now the people who marched are being celebrated in movies like sem mu selma for their courage. reporter: during his speech he points back here to selma, where he remarked 50 years ago, this bridge once a land mark of a divide nation but now it s a symbol for change. the nature of this bridge transnds religion and social status. there is now a lot of attention being paid to that bridge. those scenic shots, all coming from a drone. this is the first time cnn has used a drone in partnership with the faa to shoot parts of this story. i can tell you a lot of people who live in this community are hoping the extra attention will bring more jobs to the area. ryan young, cnn, selma, alabama. it has been 12 months after flight mh 370 vanished. many people what answers to what happened. what malaysia s transport minister is saying about that flight and when he thinks it will be found. help is son the way for consumers. venz way lu but you can t control everything. it seems like every day there s another data breach, like this one in the news right now. according to a 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first anniversary of the plane s disappearance. let s go live to cnn s anna coren who is in koala uala lumpur. i understand some are frustrated about the timing of this report that is to be released. reporter: it s right, this report will be released tomorrow. we re learning from malaysia airlines at 3:00 p.m. local time. this of course is the one year anniversary since mh 370 disappeared with 239 people on board. we re also learning that the families of those on board will get access to the report three hours beforehand at midday local time. some of those families reacting angeraly they are releasing the report tomorrow. feeling that the timing, perhaps could have been put off and delayed by international standards and guidelines. that is when this interim report is expected to be released. as far as the families are concerned, it s not appropriate. they are struggling. they have been struggling for 12 nungts months now and as you say no trace of the plane. they are searching still some 100 nautical miles off the coast of western australia. the area they are scrowering is 2,300 square miles. they ve covered 40% of it hoping to complete the search by may. the family is very concerned that if nothing is found, if there is no plane debris found in this search zone it will be called off. none of the countries have said this however, as i say, a grave fear of the families. we put that to the transport minister here in malaysia and this is what he had to say. take a listen. we will rely on the experts. we have experts guiding us. as a government we would like to have the expert due before we decipher that. reporter: is malaysia committed to searching for mh 370. if the expert views it is not this area the experts will tell us where is it. you believe the plane will be found by may? yes this is what the expert told us. there s a reason why we have to focus. reporter: because minister as you can imagine, it is the greatest fear of these families that once this area is completed and the debris is not there, that the search will be called off. can you give some sort of commitment to those families? this situation, i have said that i will have to rely on the expert view before i comment further. reporter: malaysia s transport minister obviously refusing to be drawn in to that conversation. not willing to confirm whether or not that search will continue. we did hear from australia s deputy prime minister earlier in the week saying the search cannot go on forever. remember it s australia and malaysia that have put in $60 million u.s. dollars in the search. it s believed the money will be used up once this search zone is completed. it will be up to those investigators, the experts to decide whether or not the search will continue george. thank you so much for the reporting there. we ll continue to follow the updates and developments on the story. thank you. for most of us it is baffling how could a sophisticated plane vanish. we will never know exactly what happened on board mh 370 unless the black boxes are found. as cnn s will ripley reports, investigators and pilots are trying to piece together the puzzle with the little information they do have. reporter: it s an eerie feeling sitting in a cockpit virtually similar to the mh 370 missing flight. veteran pilot rob johnson activates the boeing 777 autopilot 20 seconds after takeoff. the autopilot follows waypoints along the flight path. it is land the plane if necessary. less than a hour into its flight mh 370 veered off the planned route. our simulator makes the same turn. nobody knows why one or both pilots decided to change course. or why the plane disappeared from civilian radar. the result of a massive electrical problem or someone switching off communication systems. other theories including a cockpit fire overtaking the control. russian hijakers faking satellite data. the plane shot down heading for a u.s. military base in the indian ocean. even an elaborate murder suicide plotted by one of the pilots. this is where the mystery starts because what happened? reporter: johnson suspects a midair emergency or a deliberate act in the cockpit deprecizing the cabin at high altitude. oxygen starvation could have killed everywhere on boert turning mh 370 into a ghost plane. it s happened before. this plane lost pressure the crew lost consciousness and enplane slammed into a mountain. this jet deprecized after takeoff. the plane flew without a pilot for four hours before crashing into a field. the autopilot kept those ghost planes in the air long after all aboard were dying or dead. if there s not another waypoint entered what does the autopilot do? our simulator shows how the autopilot keeps the aircraft flying south for hours. the fuel gauge drops to zero somewhere over the southern indian ocean. you ll get the alarm as well as the stick will shake. reporter: for four agonizing minutes cockpit alarms sound. the ocean creeping closer. suddenly it s over. all of those names started racing through my head again. wow. 239 people lost. reporter: one year later, still no trace of the plane or the people on board. only uncertainty and pain for those left behind. until mh 307 s black boxes are found, nobody will know what really happened. will ripley cnn, toronto. be sure to join us for a cnn special report told by the correspondents who were there when the plane disappeared and who have continued to follow the search for malaysia airlines flight mh 370. watch the cnn special on sunday at 8:00 p.m. in hong kong. again, only on cnn. there were some tense moments for skiers stranded high above the slopes in italy. what left hundreds on the ski lift waiting to be rescued. everyone loves the way dark clothes make them feel. and no one wants that feeling to fade. that s why there s woolite darks. without harsh ingredients, it keeps darks vibrant for over 30 washes. so your love for dark clothes doesn t have to fade. for the love of darks. woolite darks. 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download the xarelto® patient center app call 1-888-xarelto or visit goxarelto.com. welcome back to our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is cnn newsroom. i m george howell. the headlines this hour. russian law enforcement has arrested two men suspected of involvement in the murder of boris nemtsov. that is according to the director of the federal security service who was quoted in russian state media. he also said the two suspects came from the southern region of the area. russian president vladmir putin has been informed of these arrests. isis has again destroyed cultural treasures in iraq stirring outrage across the world. iraqi officials said they bull dozed a northern city. the extent of the damage is not immediately clear. 50 years ago, hundreds of african-american civil rights marchers were beaten by police in selma, alabama, in what is known as bloody sundayabilityf their were demanding the right to vote when they were attacked. more than 100 members of the u.s. congress and president obama will be in selma for the anniversary of bloody sunday. there s a house in selma, alabama, that could be easily called the heart of the american civil rights movement. it was where dr. martin luther king stayed and anyone who needed a bed and bathroom. athena jones shows us that historic place. if these walls could talk they would tell a story of a family here in selma that has tried to give and contribute. they would also tell a story of a movement. reporter: on this street in selma, alabama, sits a house where time has stood still. this is the bedroom in which dr. king would entertain all of the phone calls that would come into this home from president johnson in the white house. this is the actual phone that he would use to take the calls. reporter: did you ever hear his end of the conversation? i could hear a voice. i couldn t understand. i would hear the tones and inton intinations of what i now know to be very serious homes. reporter: this home were depicted in the oscar nominated movie, selma.. i was five years old. i remember the stories he use today read to me. reporter: tell me about this room. this is the exact room where dr. king who was still living in the home was sitting the night that president johnson gave his famous we shall overcome speech. this is the actual chair. this is the television. all of the furniture in this room is original. reporter: how many people are we talking about would be here on any one time? somedays 20 30 people. there were times when people had to sign up for bathroom and bathtub space. very often, people would sleep in the bathtubs. this is the room that dr. king and his staff met the morning of the selma and montgomery march. they booted up in this room and had a prayer session in this room. this was the home that sheltered the movement. it was the home that gave the people that led this movement comfort. reporter: athena jones, cnn, selma, alabama. some amazing images there. we have much more onthen bloody sunday anniversary on cnn.com. log on there to hear from a woman who was left for dead on the bridge when a sheriff said quote, let the buzzards hit them. there was a deadly shooting in mali at a nightclub that is popular for westerners. one witness says the shooters were targeting foreigners specifically caucasians. five people were killed and at least nine others were injured. one french citizen, one belgian are among the dead. france s president condemned the shooting, calltishing a cowardly attack. at least one person is dead after a bomb exploded in egypt. egyptian state media reports 11 other people were wounded in that blast which happened outside a bank. the person killed in the attack was a police sergeant. there s no word yet on who might be responsible for that bombing. taking pictures of his very first snowfall in his new american hometown an iraqi immigrant was shot and killed early thursday. this is according to police in dallas, texas. authoritiers authorityies are investigating that shooting that appears not to be a hate crime. the victim s family is devastated. reporter: the bullet holes in this truck is a somber reminder of a shooting that killed a 36-year-old the reality of his pass associate too much for his father-in-law. he says the 36-year-old left his native iraq over growing fears of terrorist attacks by isis. to finally be reunited with his wife. we were looking for a safe place, well-educated environment, good environment. what we got was one bullet in his heart. reporter: dallas police say he was taking pictures of the snow early this morning when shots rang out. he had only been in dallas 20 days. they just come from this gate and they start shooting and run. reporter: police haven t ruled out a bias motive yet, but don t have any evidence to support it either. we re on a heightened sense of awareness. reporter: this representative from the council of iraqi human relations. wrong place, wrong time. that was jeff paul with ktvt reporting. the south american association has pledged to help keep venezuela to keep products on the shelves. the delegation met with the president to create a special commission to strengthen distribution chains in the wake of the nation s food shortage. many people had been forced to wait in long lines to get basic needs such as milk and toilet paper. their economy is on the brink of collapse because of plunging oil prices and political instability. cnn s shasta darlington explains the current state of the country and how it got there. reporter: despite being one of the world s top ten oil producing nations, more than 25% of these people live below the poverty line. with the very sharp drop in oil prices the economy has been affected. we re talking about a severe economic recession. shortages in medicine and food and other basic goods. the interim president came to power in 2013. he was then elected president a month later in a tight race with 50.8% of the vote. he has kept his predecessors left wing ideology alive and continued investing in the social programs. with the sharp drop in oil prices he s seen some of that funding dried up and people are beginning to feel the squeeze. the first wave of oppositions began back in february 2014 when a student was sexually assaulted in a city. students took oo to the street to demand better security. that quickly spread across the country in antigovernment protests. since then dozens of people have been killed in the clash and thousands have been arrested. including the opposition leader. a second wave of protests gained momentum in the beginning of 2015 and turned violent when a 14-year-old boy was shot dead by a policemen. the president has blamed the united states for a lot of the country s economic woes and so-called imperial aggression. he s also accused the united states of conspiring to overthrow his government. in february he had another opposition leader the mayor of a city arrested accusing him of conspire ing with the united states to overthrow his government. the united states is still the biggest consumer and buyer of the country oil. the country has expelled a number of diplomats. venezuela is requiring all americans to have visas if they want to enter the country. the outlook for the president is a challenging one. his approval rating has plummeted to below 25%. under the constitution venezuela has to hold parliamentary elections this year. if the opposition wins that could put them in a good position to try and get the current president out of office in 2016. that of course if he lasts long enough. that was shasta darlington reporting. venezuela owes $11 million in debt payments this year. some experts see the government defaulting. a u.s. senator is facing federal corruption charges. acused of accepting lavish gifts in exchange for political favors. he says it s all a smear campaign. we ll look into the story next. an american missionary is now free after being captured in central nigeria nearly two weeks ago. she was taken by mass gunman in a area where boko haram ram typically does not operate. they demanded a ransom. united states officials won t comment on the release but say negotiations were involved. a spanish dolphin trainer who was slated to become the new vice president of the aquarium here in atlanta. the man disappeared on a spanish resort island. it follows the online release of two videos that showed him kicking and yelling at dolphins. the georgia aquarium put his hiring on hold. a new york city runway reopened on friday a day after a flight veered off the runway nearly plunging into icy waters at la guardia airport. here is cnn s dan simon with more on that accident and the questions that are being raised about runway safety. reporter: the images of the delta plane teetering on the edge of icy waters at new york s la guardia airport are a scary reminder at one of the hazards at the u.s. s busiest airport. it s just the latest close call concerning safety that some of the america s oldest airperts. a plane landing in o hare plowed through a fence and hit two cars. a six-year-old boy killed in one of those vehicles. al in march, 2000 another southwest plane, this one in california also skids off a runway and on to a street. the plane hitting a car just missing a gas station injuring several people. we crash landed. reporter: a year earlier in little rock arkansas an american airlines flights also overshoots the runway and slams into a wall. since 1982 there have been 23 fatalities over 300 injuries and millions of dollars in damage from overshooting runways. most of these occurring where the runways don t extend a full thousand feet the length mandated by the faa two decades ago. airports like la guardia don t have the land to make the runway runways longer. some airports don t have the property. they can t acquire or get the property to extend to make sure they have the extra thousand feet. the agency is now requiring airports to install a system that can almost immediately stop a plane sliding down a runway. san francisco had its installed last summer. it s a way from stopping the aircraft and creating as little damage to the airplane as responsible. reporter: it s glued in place at the end of the runway. as a plane careened into them the cubes break apart. the prediction between the cube and wheels cause the plane to stop. it s already been installed at more than 50 airports in the u.s. according to the faa, it s prevented nine accidents, including this one in charleston west virginia where this u.s. airways jet would have likely gone over a cliff. that was cnn s dan simon reporting. when she was u.s. secretary of state hillary clinton signed a department memo discouraging the use of personal e-mail accounts for official business. but now she herself is under scrutiny for the very same thing. clinton reportedly did not even get a state department e-mail address. relying exclusively on her personal e-mail coming from her own personal server. clinton has handed over thousands of e-mails to try to prove she did nothing wrong. it could take months before those e-mails are made public. despite pending corruption charges from the u.s. justice department a u.s. senator says he is not going anywhere. senator men endebs is accuse of accepting gifts in exchange for accepting favors from a long time friend. evan perez has more on the allegations. reporter: to bring corruption charges against the new jersey senator. it semz from the senator s rilsh for a friend and major donor. and whether he used his office to promote the business interest in exchange for gifts. the case centers in part around plane trips the senator took in 2010 to the dominican relic as a guest. after investigators began to look into the strips the senator paid $58,000 for the flights, calling it an oversight. he has long denied any wrong doings calling the investigation part of a smear campaign against him. i fight for the issues and for the people of our country every single day. that s who i am. and i am not going anywhere. reporter: on friday night he held a news conference in new jersey to respond to the allegations. evan perez, cnn, washington. this next story is kind of interesting. running into animals is a risk you take when you re out in the wild. don t run into our car. ouch. ouch is right. find out what happened to the couple in that car after a buffalo charges them. that s ahead. major: here s our new trainer ensure active heart health. heart: i maximize good stuff like my potassium and phytosterols which may help lower cholesterol. new ensure active heart health supports your heart and body so you stay active and strong. ensure, take life in. 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happen? shocking in mexico. shocking abroad that he was able to construct an almost mile-long tunnel under a maximum security prison without anybody noticing and that he was able to escape from prison and nobody noticed until he was gone. this is how the mexican government confirmed the escape of joaquin el chapo guzman. according to the head of national security commission guzman received his nightly medication at 8:00 p.m. local time. prison guards noticed later through the monitoring system that he wasn t in his cell. guards then rushed to the cell and discovered a rectangular hall in the cell s shower that led to stairs and from there to the escape tunnel. an analyst based in mexico and a former pentagon official. apparently this particular prison is considered to be the one of the most if not the most secure prison in mexico. and it had been evaluated by international authorities and had gotten a very good evaluation was considered to be very secure. guzman is known for expertise in tunnel building along the border for drug trafficking. the tunnel at the maximum security prison reflects that knowledge. 1,500 meters or almost a mile long from point a to point b, ventilation through plastic piping electricity and lighting and even a motorcycle-powered buggy. the tunnel ended at a construction site in a neighborhood adjacent to the prison. 18 guards were detained and transferred to mexico city for interrogation. toluca s international airport was shut down. it s guzman s second escape from a maximum security prison. one would have assumed that he would have been the most watched over criminal in the world. and apparently that just didn t happen. this is a huge embarrassment for the mexican government obviously and of course it s going to raise a lot of questions as to what s happening with the mexican criminal justice system. on january 19th 2001, guzman escaped from the maximum security prison in western mexico. back then, his plan was simpler. he escaped in a laundry cart and remained on the land until 2014. when he was captured, apparently with intelligence provided by the dea and u.s. marshall service. they released a statement expressing concern over the escape and adding the u.s. government stands ready to work with our mexican partners to provide any assistance. the mexican president is also calling for an gaix to see if any government officials were involved in his escape. juan carlos lopez, thank you so much. so this isn t the first time el chapo used tunnels to elude authorities. his cartel has such an elaborate underground system that they use a top engineer firm. last year we got a rare glipgs inside the drug lord s safe horses in mexico. on this quiet residential street in the state capital with a school just across the street is one of five of guzman s safe houses. before even entering, cameras and reinforced steel doors reveal the priority of security. one of the first things that hits you is just how modest and basic it is. you know a small little kitchen. some of the bedrooms here are pretty dingy. the marines tell us this was part of his strategy to have a modest accommodation to hide in plain sight. there are two tv screens in almost every bedroom. when you go into the bathroom the picture of a normal house really does transform. beneath this bathtub, a secret tunnel. so if you climb down the steps, you find yourself in the tunnel itself. and you can see it s been quite carefully constructed out of wood. you have to crouch a little bit, but you re quite mobile. the nearest other safe house from here is 3 kilometers in this direction. the constructed part of the tunnel ends here. if you go through this door you find yourself in the sewage system an ideal escape route. and the tunnel system comes out right here in another safe house just down the road. as you can see, it s a similar setup to the previous one. in all the houses evidence of life suddenly suspended. a child s slide, christmas decorations and a fondness for mayonnaise. this safe house is perhaps the most significant of all of them. this is where guzman escaped from when he was being pursued by mexican marines. and this is where he fled to through this bedroom and into this bathroom where as you can see there is another escape hatch underneath this bathtub. mexican marines tell us they discovered this entire network of underground tunnels and skap houses. once again underlinings the central role of intelligence in the arrest of one of the world s most wanted men. let s now bring in cnn law enforcement analyst and former fbi assistant director tom fuentes joining me by phone. this does harken back in the new york prison escape in terms of using an elaborate tunnel. this can t possibly happen without something at that jail be complicit right? first of all, let s compare the different tunnels. you have one that guys used hacksaws to try to carve through concrete walls. you have another one that a professional engineering firm came in and essentially built an underground highway with lighting ventilation and powered motor vehicle inside of it to get him out. and it went more than a mile underground. second of all, there s no need for him to try to seduce a female employee or make friends with male guards in that prison when all he has to do is threaten to kill every member of their family and their extended families and they do it. or money or both. a guy whose net worth is $1 billion compared to matt and sweat who couldn t barely rub two nickels together. this is a huge difference. that s why even in mexico s top most secure prison it s not secure if you can t control the people that work there and keep them alive if they re trying to guard somebody like this. so tom if el chapo s cartel was known to be one of the most dangerous how concerned are you now that there will be renewed violence upon his release, whether it be you know an uptick in the violence between cartels or in some other way? i don t think there will be because he s able to control that empire whether he s in prison or he s not in prison. the prison doesn t actually diminish their ability to communicate messages out. you believe he was still doing business from jail? oh, absolutely. that s a threat to employees of the prison is so real because he can snap his fingers and their entire family will be dead by morning. we re talking a different level of violence and crime that we don t see in this country. this is probably head of the number one organized crime group in the world. again, with a net worth of over $1 billion. so this is not a minor league criminal. this is as bad as it gets if you will. what kind of resources do you now see being poured into looking for him, trying to recapture him? well, i think the mexican government will try to do that. part of the reason why it s so embarrassing to them ask that you know with each of the last ones in mexico they decided to basically kind of thumb their nose at the united states in a way and u.s. law enforcement basically saying we don t need you, we can do this on our own. i know i attended meetings when i was still running international operations at the fbi where the mexican government at one meeting said, one of our biggest concerns are the number of u.s. law enforcement officers fbi, dea and others who are running around in our country carrying guns. and we re like are you kidding? guys like guzman that have killed more than 10,000 people and you re worried about u.s. agents carrying weapons in your country? the u.s. wants guzman in about seven judicial districts. and so do you think that the u.s. will offer a new kind of assistance in this latest escape? no we can t offer enough assistance that they ll even take. if they ll take it that would be great. the fbi i think has half a dozen offices in mexico. dea, even more. so there s a large number of u.s. federal agents in mexico ready, willing, and able to help. but the mexican government in a way is too proud to take it to the extent that we offer. in addition, we offered to extradite him back to the u.s. for all the charges and for all the murders and trafficking he s done he would most definitely get life without patrol in the u.s. federal prison and we can put him in a super max and he wouldn t be getting out. mexico said no you can t have him until our sentence runs its course. so so, the if you re willing to wait 300 years that s the kind of attitude they have. the kind of arrogance that they can handle this they can handle him, they don t need to turn him over to the u.s. that s why it s twice as embarrassing to them. and it didn t work. all right. tom fuentes, thank you so much. appreciate it. and we ll be right back. that s where at&t can help. at at&t we monitor our network traffic so we can see things others can t. mitigating risks across your business. leaving you free to focus on what matters most. your mom s got your back. your friends have your back. your 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word that came during the initial reports. i can tell you from personally witnessing the site that there appears to have been some ground disturbance there. the woman was sitting in a chair. witnesses reported a boom, the force pushed her up against nearby rocks and then she fell into the sand. there are fractures in the wet sand, the gaps that occur something like you would see when lightning hits a beach. there s definitely something that happened there. the state bomb squad and fire marshal s office are investigating. there was some type of noise and some type of energy transfer. we have no evidence or indication that there was a device. this could be natural, it could be manmade. it s still under investigation. nobody else was reported hurt, but the beach was declared off limits for the rest of the day. i literally just stood up and walked away from there. it blew her right off the chair. we re at the beach all the time. thanks so much to christy paul there. still ahead, donald trump refusing to tone down his rhetoric about mexican immigrants and he says the majority of americans are with him. we ask our political panel if he s right. why do i take metamucil everyday? because it helps me skip the bad stuff. i m good. that s what i like to call the meta effect. 4-in-1 multi-health metamucil is clinically proven to help you feel less hungry between meals. experience the meta effect with our multi-health wellness line. all right. donald trump refusing to tone down his rhetoric and back down from his comments on immigration. before a crowd of 5,000 in phoenix, arizona last night, the candidate said the united states should charge mexico $100,000 for every, quote, illegal immigrant they send across the border end quote. and he says there s a majority backing him even if they re not speaking up and showing up at the rallies. we re live now at the white house. who s this silent majority that he s talking about? reporter: well, fred the voters those people in the crowds that came out to see donald trump last night at that big speech in phoenix last night suggesting that there is a certain number of people within the republican party s conservative base that are receptive to trump s message. certainly donald trump capitalizing on that. suggesting that he s tapping into some of the frustration out there on voters minds. when you see the kind f on power that the silent majority has, and the silent majority is a problem. they want to go out, they want to work hard they want to have their family they don t want to be involved in coming here and waiting on a line for hours and hours and coming in and listening to trump. but the silent majority is back and we re going to take the country back. reporter: and trump continued that tough talk on immigration throughout his speech last night suggesting that he is not toning down his rhetoric. and it comes after that barrage of criticism from many of his republican opponents and many in arizona state republican party, many of whom snubbed the speech last night and did not go to that speech. we re also hearing today from senator lindsay graham who really had some tough words for trump saying he s hijacked the debate over immigration reform andby come a wrecking ball for the republican party. let s talk more about this joining me now co-arthur of the the party s over and republican strategist and lawyer. good to see you back here. ellis, who is trump talking about? what is your interpretation of this silent majority? first of all, it s exactly the opposite of that. it s a noisy minority. if you can just get somewhere follow-up the teens, you can actually lead the pack. so this is a small, but very noisy group that does not remotely reflect the republican party in general. so brian, what s your interpretation? these are people who want to go out and have a good time but they don t want to stand in line to see trump. who are these people he s talking about really? it harkins back to a nixon speech. he encouraged people who are not protestors or vocal participants who write their congressman and senators and advocate for nixon s way of ending the war and it worked. he engaged tens of thousands of people. today s silent majority refers to people fed up with the politicians that they re used to who have ballooned the size of government domestically. that they re looking for a strong authentic leader who will want border security and enforcing our laws. i think that we re you re seeing now. we re going to see how this shakes out, which candidate actually is the true leader they re looking for as opposed to somebody who s been saying anything and standing for nothing over the course of a long career. right now, donald trump, you know, is center stage. wisconsin governor scott walker is hoping to take center stage tomorrow when he formally makes his announcement. he almost you know, got on the stage this weekend share sharing the stage with donald trump because of this tweet that went out announcing that he was going to be in the race. come to find out that was, you know an accident. at least twitter says it wasn t their fault. what is going on here? how does anybody like scott walker you know try to rollou he is formally in the race and really be on radar especially when trump is dominating so much? good luck scott walker with that one. it s going to take a lot more than a twitter glitch. the problem really guys is that donald is so loud sucks the air out of the debate so much that it s hard to have much of an intelligent conversation until he runs out of gas. that s not possible, is it brian? certainly not any time soon. i think the voters are going to wake up a little bit faster. a twitter glitch is not going to get scott walker attention. scott walker is getting scott walker attention. he s been elected three times in four years. there s something that voters connect with about him. they trust this guy. he s a legitimate contender and he ll get his fair share of a look from the voters. flip side to that you had lindsay graham who said earlier today that the party needs to do something about e versailles lensing or really rejecting was his word w donald trump, when you talk about the field of other candidates trying to get the same kind of traction or at least some attention. it clearly is a big problem for the republican contenders because now they re all having to answer to whatever it is that donald trump is saying. so ellis, it sounds like donald trump is really driving the bus for the party. but what can the party do? he is. but you know there s an opportunity here for somebody probably at the first debate to be the guy who goes right into donald s face and really gives it to him. maybe chris christie is waiting to do that. maybe it will be scott walker. somebody s going to confront him and score an awful lot of points for doing so. i think ellis that s kind of optimistic. if these guys get in his face you know he s going 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written about him. joining me now with more on this and this reputation of being a bad guy and then also a sort of robin hood. that s right, fred. of course he is somewhat of a legend in mexico. but there s no doubt that he s also a very dangerous man leading the world s largest and deadliest cartel. a lot of the illicit drugs here in the united states heroin cocaine, even marijuana, likely to have come from his cartel. his cartel is notorious for using tunnels to bring those drugs into the united states specifically going right under the united states-mexican border. and that the use of tunnels, is how authorities say he was able to escape for the second time from a mexican prison. they call him el chapo or shorty for his small 5 6 frame, but his legend is enormous. and now the world s most powerful and deadly drug trafficking kingpin has broken out of prison in mexico again. joaquin guzman is the notorious drug boss who runs the sinaloa cartel, widely believed to be the biggest supplier of heroin and cocaine in the united states. authorities say this time, he escaped through a hole in the shower area of the el altiplano prison. translator: it had a ladder and stairs. this tunnel has pvc tubing ventilation and lighting. his latest escape adding to el chapo s legend. he s the subject of books, songs, and folk lower. and he s wanted on both sides of the border. in the u.s. on federal trafficking and organized crime charges. his cartel notorious for tunnelling drugs under the u.s.-mexican border. born into a poor family in the sinaloa state when the drug trade was evolving guzman amassed a powerful empire one that he continued running from behind bars after his first arrest in 1993. his reputation only grew as he spent 13 years op the run after escaping from prison in 2001. sneaking out in a laundry cart in a plot that cost him $2.5 million in bribes. he was caught and rearrested just last year at this resort in his home state of sinaloa. now a massive man hunt is underway get again. now, fred officials here in the united states saying that they will help the mexican authorities track him down but unofficially they are pretty upset about this. they had suggested, even asked, that he be extradited back to the united states while he was still in custody out of fear that he might escape again. the last time, he was on the run for 13 years in part because he was able to use those tunnels to get around. he also has a very large group of people around him protecting him from being captured. it was the dea who actually was able to track him down after his last stint on the lamb using his cell phone ping. fred? all right. thanks so much. let s talk more about this. bring in cnn contributor casey jordan. good to see you again. so this is a pretty elaborate tunnel that we re learning about with the ventilation and the lighting. which would simply say this was in the making this plan seemed to have been hatched maybe even before he entered that prison or at least at the time of his booking. what do you think? he has a history of this. it s not even startling. it s almost disturbing for how normalized this has become. that he pops up at a construction site a mile away. i wonder what the construction site was doing there. they were digging a tunnel probably for months. i don t think anyone is really surprised. i mean there s the idea that it s an embarrassment or this escape is an affront to the mexican government i think almost is too soft of a description. it s an indices that guzman has normalized running a business from prison he gets out when he wants to. there s nothing they can do to hold him. does it say to you that it was also done by perhaps even befriending some of the jail officials there? they re clearly involved, but i think they re involvement has nothing to do with digging the tunnel. it has to do with simply looking the other way. the idea is that there s a video camera on his cell at all times so that they re monitoring him. that s their high security. yet, he was able to go into the shower and take a shower without anyone watching and without any video camera. yeah, but except wouldn t they already know about all of the other, i guess, tunnels that were built in his kind of safe houses where lifting up the bathtub, there s something about the whole bathroom experience for him. something about lifting up the bathtub, being able to go into a tunnel. so then if he s got this shower and there s no camera on that that maybe that would be a place he could get away. why wouldn t they think about that? it would be comical if it weren t so tragic. we know his tunnels were always in the bathtubs in the houses he had set up for this. he was just kind of living in one place all connected with an under ground set of tunnels for all those years. the irony of course is that the hole through which he escaped was right in the shower. you would think they would be looking there as his escape route. how long this had been going on he s only been back in prison for a year. maybe it took them a year to dig the hole lient with electricity, the plan was hatched before he ever went back to prison. what about this whole robin hood reputation that he also holds? what s behind that? what would he do for people that some celebrate him? he ployemploys them. i m sure he does things like buy them baseball fields and fund their schools, but the mountain communities that grow the ingredients that make the cocaine and the heroin they survive economically almost $30 billion a year in drugs comes out of mexico. and when you think about how many poor people especially rural farming agricultural people that employs, they know what they re doing is wrong but they also know without guzman they d be starving. if you work for him, you can get rich or at least get by. and of course avoid falling in his disfavor. he s a violent man and he will kill you if you don t do what he says. thanks so much. good to see you 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branch repeatedly. the indictment says the boy suffered substantial injuries. peterson says i was spanking my child. what is wrong with the nfl? adrian peterson will not be playing for the minnesota vikings sunday. around the league at least ten convicted or suspected domestic abusers are scheduled to take the field. one is panther kreg harding, defensive end convicted of beating his ex-girlfriend, throwing her across the room and trying to strangle her. and there is san francisco 49er ray mcdonald, arrested two weeks ago accused of beating up his pregnant fiancee. ray rice of course will not play as the whole world now knows he was fired from the baltimore ravens for delivering that awful knock-out punch to his then fiance in an elevator. others are avoiding suspension because in the past the league has been lenient. one former player is amani toomer. thanks for being here. thanks for having me. so tomorrow guys are going to suit up, some of whom have issues of their own. there is a guy for the panthers with an allegation of domestic violence against him right now. do you expect that there is a process about to occur where they get ferreted out as well, get punished by the nfl where previously they had not been? greg hardy was convicted by a judge and now decided to go to a jury trial. you know, usually in this country you re innocent until proven guilty. he s been proven guilty so i think that his case and there is another case of mcdonald in san francisco, who just got charged. i think mcdonald has an opportunity to defend himself and should be able to plap. but hardy, a player who has been convicted, i don t see how the nfl after this situation after how bad it s looked, after how they made the whole domestic violence, doesn t look like the nfl is taking domestic violence seriously outwardly looking in. i think that greg hardy should not be playing on sunday. a number of my radio callers this week, curious to hear what you heard, drawing parallels with michael vick. one argument is when a guy has paid his penance, he has been punished by the law, i don t think that happened with ray rice, he should be able to eat, he should be able to come back and engage in his profession. what s your thought on that? playing in the nfl is a privilege. okay. you know, you have to there is a code of conduct our commissioner has put forth and you have to live up to that standard. he could be able to eat, he could do he could work in a job, he can do anything he wants, he might not be able to play in the nfl until he proves without a shadow of a doubt to the nfl and to all of the people in the community who he affected by this behavior to come back. i don t look at it the same way. i think he needs to get out in front of this thing and become like michael vick who got who was did a lot of work with peta. i think ray rice, they should use him as a spokesperson to create awareness for domestic violence moving forward. i think then i would be more willing to allow him back in the community. you mention the commissioner. let me ask you about roger goodell. it seems like there is a fact dispute as to what was said at a june meeting where ray rice and his now wife were meeting with roger goodell and goodell is saying that he wasn t told that there was a punch in the course of that meeting, others are saying that ray rice s side of it is i told roger goodell exactly what happened. here s my question f. goodell had been told by rice at that meeting what happened inside the elevator and he chose to only suspend him for two games, does goodell now need to go? i don t think goodell needs to go. i think he needs to know what domestic violence is. i don t believe he should just be fired because i think that that s the easy way out. it s the easy way out to fire him, i think what needs to happen is the league needs to move forward and to become like ray rice, on top of this situation in terms of becoming creating awareness. there is no other league, no other entity that can create more awareness than the nfl. i think they have an opportunity to turn the narrative fromming the nfl doesn t care about domestic violence to the nfl champions the awareness of domestic violence. gentlemjanay rice says back essentially it s your fault. that s the classic, my mother telling me that most victims are very apologetic and they take on a lot of the responsibility of the action of the abuser themselves. now, if roger goodell and the nfl realized that before and they knew, they looked at it through the victim s role, then this situation would have been handled differently. amani toomer, good to see you. wear the ring next time. i know. it s too big to wear out. good problem to have. thank you. i m not complaining. thank you for being here. thanks for having me. who the heck is advising commissioner roger goodell? his handling of the ray rice scandal has been a pr disaster. let s talk to an expert in crisis management to knows the nfl, lanny davis, former white house special counsel to bill clinton. he has also remitted redskins owner daniel snyder. thank you for being here. if today you were whispering in the ear of roger goodell, you would be telling him what? well, first of all, i d be telling him to restate that he got it wrong to begin with when he only imposed a two-game suspension based upon the first videotape. now he has to expand on that. i happen to think he not only got it wrong for only doing two games, i would recommend a full year suspension for the first incident of domestic violence to send a message to all men including adrian peterson, that violence, whether it s women or children, is not acceptable and you re not playing in the league for one year and the second incident it s suspension indefinitely. so that s what he got wrong. now i think he needs to be more forthcoming about exactly what he plans to do going forward for all of these other incidents that we re now hearing about of men who play football who think violence is okay on the field and okay off the field because it s off the field, they need to be told that there is no distinction when you re violent against women you re out, you don t play football and at least for one year you never play football if you do it a second time. you re out forever. i read your book, i know the mantra, the lanny davis mantra. he did not tell it all, tell it early or tell it himself. no he didn t. i think that not asking the casino for the second videotape was a mistake. i think he s right that law enforcement during a grand jury proceeding wouldn t turn over the tape. but i also would beg to differ that you characterize that there were facts about what was told behind closed doors, let s talk about mr. rice. mr. rice did not follow my rules, and was not honest with the public when he held a press conference. he didn t say i cold cocked my girlfriend and that s why i dragged her out. he left that out. now he sends four anonymous sources to espn to say i actually told mr. goodell, when you have two people on the record the president and the owner of the ravens disputing the anonymous sources. at the very least, mr. rice has not followed any of the rules of crisis management. he did something terrible, he should take himself out of football for a year and get help and then go teach other men not to touch women and not to be violent against women. give me 30 seconds on adrian peterson. today s latest ripple. how should goodell respond to this? as strongly as striking a woman certainly as strongly as beating up a child much less his own child. he needs to be the teaching moment for this country about abusing children, and that should be part of the equation in the nfl, off-field behavior, whether it s drunk driving, violence against women and children, they are just as responsible off the field as on the field. lanny davis, as always, thank you for being here. thank you. have to take a quick break. here s what i want to talk about. president obama is sending more americans on dangerous missions to iraq and syria. congress has not weighed in. don t our elected representatives owe us a real debate about whether this is a risk worth taking? mitt romney says he s not running again for the white house in 2016 but pat buchanan says oh, yes, he is. and we re going to talk. and why isn t anyone prosecuting ray rice? he committed a crime the country witnessed and no one is charging him. we ll talk about that after the break. at od, whatever business you re in, that s the business we re in. with premium service like one of the best on-time delivery records and a low claims ratio, we do whatever it takes to make your business our business. od. helping the world keep promises. lots of them, right? 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i m joined by the president of the new jersey state senate, he s calling for the state attorney general to investigate how prosecutors handle the case. senator, let me ask you this. what did the police and prosecutors know of that appalling video and when did they know it? well, they had the film, michael. and the problem is that you saw that violent act, the prosecutor actually went and moved for mr. rice to be upgraded in his charge. and went before a grand jury. and unfortunately, our laws, we ve just third degree crime comes with presumption of non-incarceration, you can t put somebody in jail regardless of the. if it had been joe smith, some random individual not a celebrity, same outcome would have occurred? well, that s what the prosecutor in atlantic county is doing, that s why i asked the attorney general to review to assure there was no special treatment given. there are conflicting reports now that it looks like he was given some special treatment but you know, we re dealing with basically a victim that is defending the abuser and that s pretty common in domestic abuse. so we re looking at this as if this is common practice and the way you deal with this then we need to change it. there is a perception across the country as people watched this god awful video. they think he was cut a break because he plays in the nfl. what i m hearing is that the law needs to be changed and your suspicion as you re calling for this investigation is it was not a celebrity treated in a beneficial manner. well, i m giving the prosecutor the benefit of the doubt but i am asking the attorney general because we have to make sure that he wasn t given a special treatment because of who he was. and you know, more importantly for us, this puts domestic violence on the forefront again for a lot of people and it s a serious issue. we re taught as children you don t beat children, you don t beat women. it s the wrong thing to do. something s wrong here. on that we can agree, the justice system for whatever reason didn t react as society would demand to what we all saw in that videotape. absolutely. what we ve seen from that videotape is really there is a failure in our system. mr. rice honestly should have went to jail. that was a violent act. he could have killed his girlfriend at the time and he s gotten a slap on the wrist. it s like a traffic violation. don t do it again. you re speeding, don t do it again. domestic violence has to be treated in a way that it deals with the problem. and unfortunately mr. rice slipped through the cracks. well said. i agree. senator steve sweeney, thank you for joining us. thank you, michael. i want to squeeze in a commercial. when i come back i ve got a question. why in the heck hasn t our congress debated whether we should be escalating military action against isis? 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well, i think this there are those in washington who would just as soon not vote on it. i don t know why you run for congress, though, if you are afraid to cast a vote. that s what we re paid to do. that s why we came to town. whether you are democrat or republican, and as you outlined, this is a very serious decision. we have not gotten it right in the middle east in 13 years. and we need to know all of the information that we can. we need to be having a robust debate, we need to be getting a lot of eyes on this and a lot of finger prints on this decision. i think it strengthens the president s hand internationally, but it also brings the country together through the education process on what the american interest is. did he give you enough, in his address to the nation, congressman, that you would be comfortable voting for an authorization for war against isis in syria and iraq? not quite but i will say this. i m old school enough to believe that the commander in chief needs to have the tools to, if this is a serious situation, which it is, he needs to have the tools to be the tools that he needs to be victorious. that s why while i don t think anybody is embracing putting troops on the ground, i don t think you can get around that eventually. and i think that the president has to have congress behind him if he needs to make that decision. he has not said he needs to make that decision but i want him to have all of the tools in the tool box to win this war. and i do believe it is a war. i was surprised that a survey this past week from the wall street journal and nbc news said that two thirds of americans are supportive of some type of military intervention against isis, in fact, a full third of americans said they d support boots on the ground. as i analyze the internals of the data i was saying to myself i wonder if they have been swayed which the horrific images of the two beheadings and the fact that we ve just marked the 13th anniversary of september 11 and maybe the dust needs to settle a little for more reasoned approach to this. we don t know who our allies are, that question was asked this week in a hearing, we don t know what these allies are willing to do in terms of writing a check, sending equipment or sending ground troops. and all that is important because if the air campaign isn t successful enough and we can t get enough iraqis trained up to defend themselves, then you re going to have to have some ground troops and they have to come from somewhere. i worry there is not a sufficient arab component and the perception will be among isis that it s yet again the west and america encroaching on what they regard as the arabian peninsula and they will use this for propaganda purposes for recruitment. i think members of congress are going to want to know what are they willing to do, how much skin are they going to put in the game. and one of the things that we learned from afghanistan and iraq, there were a lot of people in our coalition almost there on paper only. their contribution was very small. while we said we had 48 nations in the coalition, some gave a little a lot more than others. and i think people are going to want to know that as well. we can t continuously intervene in the middle east and fight the wars that they should be fighting for themselves. it s funny you say that. a couple years ago i toured a base in djibouti and i was impressed to see this listing of all of the countries represented on the base but when we saw the sizes of the respective barracks, there was the united states and then everybody else. yes. that s absolutely right. they are there on paper only. and we were told this week administration is hoping to have 70 countries in the coalition. that would be very, very good news. i don t see how they are going to be able to accomplish that in a few weeks period of time, though. congressman, thank you for being here. thank you, michael. time for a break but i ve got a fascinating guest coming up. general anthony zinni was the commander who broke with the white house during the iraq war, went on national television to say this thing is a mess. you ll want to hear what he has to say about the war on isis, stick with us. woman: everyone in the nicu all the nurses wanted to watch him when he was there 118 days. everything that you thought was important to you changes in light of having a child that needs you every moment. i wouldn t trade him for the world. who matters most to you says the most about you. at massmutual we re owned by our policyowners, and they matter most to us. if you re caring for a child with special needs, our innovative special care program offers strategies that can help. lactaid® is 100% real milk? 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i do cringe for several reasons. one, first of all don t tell your enemy what you re not going to do. presidents have always said all options are still on the table. they may caveat saying we ll look carefully before certain commitments. the other thing i think we re missing here and this is very important from a military perspective. boots on the ground provide a capability that cannot be matched through just air strikes or providing intelligence or advisers and quipping. we could have had isis out of iraq in a matter of a week or so if we had a substantial american groundforce. by that i mean maybe two brigades. now they have been in for months, and they have been able to recruit, it s helped their image and even international recruiting. and they have been able to dig in in places like mosul and others and it s going to be much hard tear extract them as a result. i think, general, civilians such as myself equate boots on the ground with longevity. is that necessarily the case. we think this is going on for many years. no. i think that s a misunderstanding. the decision to stay is a political decision. remember in the first gulf war, when we put in overwhelming troops according with the powell and weinberger doctrine we ended that fight pretty quickly and able to reduce to a small containment force that didn t have boots on the ground. remember when the kurds were brutalized by saddam. we put in a ground force to push the military back from kurdistan and brought them home, then protected them with an air contingent out of turkey and off carriers. so, there isn t necessarily that kind of commitment. it s a misunderstanding, i think, that s gotten our presidents and others in our understanding by the american people confused. general, with regard to the coalition being assembled, is the enemy of my enemy my friend in this case and by that sir, i mean should we participate with assad? should we participate with iran? i would not participate in the sense that we re cooperating with either one. it may be that right now we have the same enemy. all that needs to be done is just deconflict what we re doing on the ground which basically means we would say in the case of syria, issue, we re going to strike isis targets inside syria, do not interfere with us or else. and with iran i would say we will keep you informed as much as we can, you keep us informed since we re basically sharing the same battlefield. but we have to remember one important thing. neither one of those entities has our best interests at heart in the end. i worry about the reliability of those syrian forces with whom we might now partner that we might be training. i reflect on afghanistan when it seems like there was an unintended consequence and came back to haunt wisconsin bid laden and the volunteers. what concern if nen does general zinni have about our new partners in syria? you know, i ve always worried when we fall back to a rented army like we did with the northern alliance in afghanistan. that cost us getting al qaeda in tora bora. this collection that we have now is highly vulnerable in my mind. it s not only the syrian opposition that we re counting on for the ground fight, remember they have two fights going on and we re not sure who they all are. we also have the kurdish peshmerga and the iraqi military. the kurds, they will fight but they are small and poorly equipped. the iraqi army, we should have doubts based on their performance and obviously the syrian opposition is questionable, again in who they are and if they are able to handle the task of fighting two enemies, assad and isis. so, this is the weak link in this strategy as i see it. general, quick final question if i might. is there a vital u.s. interest at stake with regard to isis? there is. and it s a moral one. you know, had we not intervened as small as the first intervention was with airstrikes and humanitarian aid they would have committed genocide. the yazid es would have been wiped out. the caldeians, all of those iraqi prisoners they took, they were brutally murdering. i don t think we want to do what we did in terms of the holocaust or rwanda and stud by and watched this happen. though that might not be an economic interest it s a moral interest in my view. general anthony zinni, thank for yours service and for being here. thank you. i need to get in a break. when i come back, some startling predictions of very smart guy who says all of the conventional wisdom about the midterm elections is dead wrong. princeton professor sam wang is standing by live. so what we re looking for is a way to plus our accounting firm s mobile plan. and minus our expenses. perfect timing. we re offering our best-ever pricing on mobile plans for business. run the numbers on that. well, unlimited talk and text, and ten gigs of data for the five of you would be. one-seventy-five a month. good calculating kyle. good job kyle. you just made partner. our best-ever pricing on mobile share value plans for business. now with a $100 bill credit for every business line you add. lactaid® is 100% real milk? 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it s like dewey defeats truman all over again. november s midterm elections seven weeks away. right now all of the experts predict that republicans will win a majority in the senate. what if everybody s got it wrong? my next guest says they do. sam wang is a princeton university professor and the founder of the princeton election consortium. this guy has a phenomenal track record. in 2012 he beat all of the so-called experts, he called the presidential race correctly in 49 of 50 states, he also had a perfect record for the close senate seat. sam wang went 10 for 10 and missed a couple in the house. sam wang predicts that democrats will retain control of the senate and he joins me now. dr. wang, we visited your website. i want to put up what is currently posted at your site and ask you to explain. because you, sir, are saying the probability of democratic control remaining in the hands of democrats and independents on election day is 70%. what are you seeing that everyone else is not? that s right. well, i should first say that 70% is not 100%. let me describe what we do there. for the last elections going back to 2004 when i started analyzing this stuff at election.princeton.edu, what we found is that polls are very good snapshot of current conditions at any given moment in the race and polls converge on the election day outcome. so what you re looking at there is the probability of all of the state races that are close including the ones that are not so close, and i turn those into a statistical snapshot of where the race is on any given day. and what the number you came up with is a forecast based on what the polls are doing all summer of that number, landing on democrats and independents having 50 seats or more on election day. so, based on what we ve been seeing the polls have been pointing toward a very close contest, everybody should vote, but indicating that democrats and independents are favored. we should make clear, you re a neuroscientist, you re an aggregator in this respect. you are not doing original polling, you re looking at a whole host of other people s data. how do you protect against garbage in, garbage out? do you exclude pollsters from your research that have a bad track record? right. the way i put it as a neuroscientist i m having to deal with points that might be off one by one. the key is aggragate them in a neutral way where all of the data points have a say. since 2004, our observation at the princeton election consortium though an individual pollster might be off as a community those guys, those men and women are very good at what they do. and as a community, they have this wisdom of crowds where they can converge on the right answer. what that means is that all polls are welcome in this and using statistical methods to not give too much weight to outlier polls, democratic pollsters can get in. republican pollsters, neutral pollsters, everybody gets in and perhaps surprisingly that leads to a very good predictive tool. dr. wang, i ve been following you via social media. seems there is a trash talking going on between nate silver and you. yeah. it s sort of fun but i want to make sure that stays on the math and stays on the substance. and you are right there is a little bit of a tiff going on. i watch that netflix documentary about the romney campaign. it was tremendous. something that i took away for our purposes is the fact the romney folks seemed stunned on election night. so my question for you, dr. wang, is there a tendency among pollsters to tell their clients what they want to hear? well, i think if you re an individual pollster it is true you should please your client. one thing that pollsters can do the boost the spirits of the campaign they are working for so it would not be sprigsing for a campaign to nudge numbers a little bit, put a little finger on the scale, toward the candidate they are working for to get him to run harder, this finger on the scale can happen with individual pollsters. you look at the romney campaign, i think a distinct possibility is that mitt romney was led to believe something that was a little off from what happened. finally, what i m hearing from you, this is not a wave, this is at best a ripple year. is that fair to say? i think in the senate that s true. these main stream immediate yap sites, 538 and the new york times, they came into this campaign thinking that it was going to be a better year for the republicans and their computer models put a finger on the scale f. you look at actual conditions on the ground right now in terms of polling in the senate, the democrats are currently performing better than expectations, i do think it s true that the republicans are likely to pick up seats in the house but it s not going to be a massive wave like in 2010. thanks for being here. thank you. coming up next, i ll be talking to one of the smartest political thinkers on the planet. pat buchanan says mitt romney probably is going to run for president again and he is usually right. you ll want to hear what pat has to say. at od, whatever business you re in, that s the business we re in with premium service like one of the best on-time delivery records and a low claims ratio, we do whatever it takes to make your business our business. od. helping the world keep promises. please choose one based oh, no,on the cover.en that. here we go. whoa, no test rides allowed. i can t show you the inside, but trust me. are you kidding me. at university of phoenix, we think you should be able to try before you buy. that s why we offer students new to college a risk-free period. so you commit to your education with confidence. get started at phoenixtrial.com lactaid® is 100% real milk? 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[ female announcer ] lactaid. 100% real milk. no discomfort. is mitt romney laying the groundwork to run for president again in 2016? last weekend on fox news sunday governor romney was highly criticalp of president obama s time in office but insist head is not running to replace him. listen to the exchange. in your heart do you think that you would make the best president of all of the people out there? look, there is no question in my mind that i think i d have been a better president than barack obama has been. that was quickly followed by this exchange. you think you would make a better president than hillary clinton? no question about that in my mind. governor romney is no doubt keeping an eye on the early polls. a recent poll gives him a commanding lead over potential gop rivals among republican voters in iowa. romney s got 35%, his nearest competitor is governor huckabee at 9%. despite his latest denial and all this made me think about richard nixon who ran and lost to j.f.k. in 1960 and after a series of denials ran again in 68 and won. so let s talk to one of the smart nest politics, pat buchanan. who worked in the nixon white house. also the autoer of the the greatest comeback. the more he says no. the more i think he s read your book and he s following a the script set by nixon in the 60s. what are you watching. i see the same thing. nixon lost in 1962 and said i m all through with politics. and in 1966 michael, which is comparable to this year for the 2016 campaign, nixon went out after l.b.j. day and night on that campaign. 35 states, 80 congressional districts. nixon was on johnson s case. he campaigned for liberal, conservatives moderates and everyone. at the end he engaged lindon johnson. i think governor romney seems to be pursuing this strategy and it is exactly the right one i believe if he wants to run for president. and i don t have any doubt that mitt romney would like to be president of the united states and believe he would be a good one. do you think he s going about this in a manner to set up a draft that having run and lost twice he doesn t want to announce candidacy in the conventional way. he goes out and pays his dues and sets up a circuit where republicans are saying oh man you got get into this thing. i don t along with the draft thing. what we did in 67, 68. nixon said i m going to have to win in the fires of the primary, and have to win every one. and get rid of this loser image. and the way you do is going in and inviting every republican in and beating every one of them. i don t think if mitt romney. and i believe he wants to be president in his heart. e ran twice. i believe if he does that he has to get in and do battle and win the mom makes tnom-nom nation. i don t think people are going to offer it to him on a golden platter. if actual establishment centralist candidates. chris christie and jebb bush. i don t think why mitt romney should look at them. all have drawbacks and say i can t beat these fellas and get into the finals. my i appraisal is that conservatives within the republican caucus process split that vote and allow romney to escape with the nomination. if christie goes, if bush goes. if romney goes, might the establishment vote be divided within the process allowing a conservative, maybe pat buchanan. i don t know. to capture the nomination. this is so wide open, michael. nobody is above 15%. when i ran against bob dole in 96 he was over 50% beginning. there are going to be conservatives, maybe a libertarian in there. nobody is above 15%. so the conservative libertarian side, popular side is going to be widely contested as well as the establishment side. maybe even more so. this is kr wide open. it is like a poker game. if you play draw poker, five cards. and you open up with two aces in your hand. you don t drop out of the game, michael. let me switch gears briefly. so the president was on national television talking about what looks like war against isis fx even though he doesn t characterize it as such. am i crazy watching this thinking he s channelling r.n.? i don t think richard nixon would go into this the way the president is going into it. isis is a miserable crowd and they ought to be destroyed. but he does not have the forces. you need forces on the ground in syria and forces on the ground in iraq to defeat isis. and i don t see him as having them. and he won t deal with assad apparently the syrian army which, could do it. the turks aren t going to come in and the allies in yurm aneure and the arab world aren t going to send troops, where are the ground forces going to come from to defeat the radicals? good question. i don t know. patrick as always. we appreciate your analysis. thank you my friend. i ll be right back. so what we re looking for is a way to plus our accounting firm s mobile plan. and minus our expenses. perfect timing. we re offering our best-ever pricing on mobile plans for business. run the numbers on that. well, unlimited talk and text, and ten gigs of data for the five of you would be. one-seventy-five a month. good calculating kyle. good job kyle. you just made partner. our best-ever pricing on mobile share value plans for business. now with a $100 bill credit for every business line you add. lots of them, right? 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over not only with its fast military gains in iraq and syria, but also with its use of social media to spread its propaganda mission. this week on twitter it released a second video from british hostage john cantlie. it opens with lend me your ears. can tly has been abandoned by his government. he proceeds to rail against the military campaign against isis. and then taking a page out of a pr manual, isis through cantley moves to support its arguments with quotes from noted americans including tom cane who chaired the 9/11 commission. but he begins the video by quoting liberally from my first guest, michael shawer, the former head of the cia bin laden desk at this time cnn is not comfortable showing this video because the network believes that he was filmed under der duress. he said let s get to the point with a quote from former cia chief turned vigorous anti-intervention campaigner michael scheuer. president obama does not have the slightest intention of defeating the islamic state, he says, which would require the aerial slaughter and boots on the ground demolishing of the mujahadin. michael is considerable ads 18 years into our war with the islamists the u.s. government has given no public sign that it has the slightest awareness of what its enemies are fighting for. and he ends the video with another quote with michael who joins me now. you ran the bin laden unit at the ciat alex station. i kau a tabulation in time this week. they said that since 2007, you have been quoted in propaganda videos and the like from isis and other splinter groups from al qaeda, no less than 16 times. why do they keep quoting you? it appears, michael, i m the only one in the west that is willing to take people who match words and deeds seriously. i m not a rocket scientist and my foes will tell you that. they rather think i m an idiot. but we re fighting an enemy who tells us exactly what he s going to do and does it. and he does it for the motivations that he describes. and yet we have the third american president now, mr. clinton, mr. bush, and mr. obama, repeating the same sort of nonsense that they have talked about for the last 18 years. in other words, you believe there is a misperception. you think that the american people, you know i read all of your books so i read this and herded from you before. you think that to the extent we ve been told that this is about our lap dances or lattes or our gap jeans or our, quote, freedoms, that s not what drives the jihadists. that s a deliberate lie on the part of the ruling establishment in this country on the political elites. because they don t want to face the fact that what motivates these people to attack us maybe not to attack the israelis, maybe not to attack the saudis but to attack us, is our intervention in their world. and right now isis could not ask for any greater gift than the one obama is giving them at the moment. so, when they quote michael shawer, your intermtation is to say because i understand them, i understand them to be evil sobs but people who say what they mean and transmit their intentions, and their message has been mischaracterized by the american political leadership, both democrats and republicans. everyone. there is not an honest man on capitol hill as far as i know in terms of this since ron paul left. this is a problem that is ours and will keep growing and it will occur in this country until we come to grips with the fact that we have a choice. we keep our foreign policy contant, we fight this war forever. we change our foreign policy to the extent we can especially in regard to energy and support for the saudi police state and the israelis, we have a chance to split the unity of the mujahedin and have them fight among themselves than us. in that video he quotes you having said that obama doesn t have the slightest intention of defeating the islamic state. square that with the fact we re looking at footage of air strikes that have been now launched against that islamic state, both in iraq and now in syria. michael, we watched it in iraq the first time independent 2003, we watched it for 14 years. in afghanistan. air power wins nothing. except with an atomic weapon aboard. and that s not going to happen. it is obama said yesterday, there is no military solution to this. and what that means is he s ashamed as bush was, as clinton was, to apply american military power that the american people have paid for, to protect their country and their families. and what they will do is they will talk their way out of this war, we ll run again, and we ll be 0-3 against the mujahadin which in the muslim world means they have beaten both superpowers, the soviets and the united states. soviets in 79 invasion. correct sir. i m going to ask you for the michael scheuer solution. i want to ask you to square what you offered in terms of the real motivation of isis is, with what we re seeing in those videos and here s what i mean by that, michael. they are beheading journalists as they are threatening the president against further incursion into the muslim world. surely they know that the reaction here in america is going to be for people to get fired up and be supportive of those bombing missions. i guess my question for michael is, do they really want us to come over there, or, do they really want us as they say in the video to stay home? they want us to come over so we ll stay home. they want to beat us again. it s a lure. osama bin laden and others have explained clearly that running an operation across the atlantic ocean or the pacific into america is expensive and it will cause only minimal damage. if they can get an american field army, on the ground they have found twice now, in iraq and afghanistan, that they can defeat it. it costs us enormous amounts of money, many dead, lots of maimed kids hobbling around the rest of their life but most important, they defeat the greatest power the world has seen as is said, with arms from the korean war. they know what war is about, sir. and we don t. so when they say this is what you ll get more of obama if you continue, they are really saying, continue your quest on the so-called their words not mine, arabian peninsula so they can use it as a recruitment device. that s the world according to michael scheuer. i think it s reality. that s the way i see reality, yes, that s correct. the more we intervene the more they win. before you leave me, give me the plan. so if michael scheuer would dictate that which the united states is doing would be what? close the southern border so we don t fight inside the united states. begin to put together the excel pipe line, build it, drill off shore, get us energy sufficient so we can dump those tyrants that are part of our coalition now. the saudis, cokuwaitis. they are the people that should be getting killed in this, not americans. and finally, we need to separate ours from israel. it s an enormous drag, it s a cancer on american foreign policy. you know the people will hear this and find those words objectionable and say they are only freend in the middle east t only people we can trust. why would we turn our backs on the israelis. i find it objectionable to send my college age kids to fight and die so mrs. mohammed can vote in an afghan election and after all of those kids died to run away and leave the country go back to the taliban. i ll take the abuse if people can explain what in the world this political elite is doing to our young people. michael, thank you as always for being here. pleasure, sir. let s take a break. i ve got a lot more ahead. up next this question. where are you? jane fonda, where are you susan sarandon and the thousands of others who protested american wars in the past. america, is at war again. why are the streets silent this time? i ll talk with tom hayden. also ahead, domestic politicsing of isis. no one on capitol hill will go on record with a vote to authorize force against isis but plenty of political ads are using video of the terrorists to stoke fears in the hearts and minds of voters. and gary hart never got to the white house. nearly 30 years ago he was caught in an affair with donna rice ending his bid. i pose this question to the man who broke the story. have we as a nation suffered because tabloid journalists peer through the bushes. i ll be right back. like, the one the bank sees. sheesh, i feel like i m being interrogated over here. she s onto us. dump her. 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iraq and there was no draft. there were 600,000 as you showed on your screen, 10 seconds ago. there was a big anti-war not in comparison to the 60s. we can make these comparisons, but look. we have to use our brains. it s obvious that this war is rapidly developing. people have to think about it. if the president says there s no military solution and he also says it s going to be a war that lasts beyond his presidency, i can guarantee you there will be a big anti-war movement. is part of the problem, a lack of protest standpoint, that there is not access, say, in syria. journalists need to be concerned that they be beheaded if they were on the front lines of this conflict and so perhaps americans at home are not seeing it the way it s playing out. that s a big problem. i know a lot about the james foley case, but i do think you can start an anti-war movement without television. it will be when people adjust to the madness that seems to be going on, and start to ask questions how long will it last, what will it cost. is there really a strategy if the president says there s no military solution. i think it will take till a little past the election, and you ll start to see a lot of action. i get the sense you re painting your sign and you re getting ready. tom hayden. thanks a lot. i am. let me take a quick break. i m fascinated by this. would you be upset if your son said he was dating a republican or your daughter said i m dating a democrat? discrimination based on party affiliation. and when should crimes be classified as hate crimes? should they ever? i ll talk with a district attorney who is dealing with an explosive case close to my home that many of calling gay bashing. the suspects have not been charged with a hate crime. musical chairs. fun, right? welllllllll, not when your travel rewards card makes it so hard to get a seat using your miles. that s their game. the flights you want are blacked out. or they ask for some ridiculous number of miles. honestly, it s time to switch to the venture card from capital one. with venture, use your miles on any airline, any flight, any time. no blackout dates. and with every purchase, you ll earn unlimited double miles. from now on, no one s taking your seat away. what s in your wallet? it used to be many parents disapproved of children marrying someone of a different race, ethnicity, religion. new research published suggest that now party prej sis meaning political party prejudice, even exceeds racial prejudice. cass sunstine wrote about it. the research was done by academics at stanford and princeton. look at these numbers. it states that in 1960, only 5% of republicans and 4% of democrats said they would not like their children to marry outside of their political party. by 2010 those numbers jumped to 49% and 33%. a distressing sign of the times. perhaps not so surprising to my next guest. i m joined by lilliana mason, a scholar at rutger s political science department. what do you make of that data? it s actually not that surprising to me. i think that saying that partyism and racism are different things is actually a little misleading. i think what we re seeing is that the two political parties divided on race so that we have a racial division between republicans and democrats, we also have a religious division between republicans and democrats, we have a cultural division, we watch different tv shows, live in different places, north and south and urban and rural so we re becoming these sort of mega teams t democrats and republicans, and it s becoming easier and easier to dehumanize the people who are our political opponents. do you think, you have given me a thought, maybe we re able publicly to criticize the other party, we would never criticize, we hope, the other race. is this all cover? in other words, instead today of somehow acknowledging to a pollster you re a racist, you re not going to do that. you lay it off on the democrats. you lay it off on the republicans. you could. you could. i think part of it is that, and then but then there are all of these other identities you have and biases that you can put in there. if you are biased against a religious group you could put that in there under party. if you are biased against southerners put that under a political party. the difference between racism and partyism is we ve got this one prejudice that it s totally okay to talk about, and racism which is really you know, publicly we re not supposed to talk about that. that s the rule. maybe a solution is to ostracize partyism if that s the proper word, in the same way we ve ostracized those who are bigots. that would be a wonderful thing to do but that s not happening at all. what we re seeing is that partisans from both sides seem to find it acceptable to throw insults at each other, call each other names like stupid or liars. we reward them writing our checks, we reward them allowing them to get nominated. and if they were to say those same things about a racial group they would disappear from the public scene in an instant. makes sense to me. thank you for joining me. joining me now a couple who married outside of their political party, john is a cnn political analyst, mar zbret a cnn commentator and republican consultant. margaret, when you brought him home and they found out that he was an independent, albeit one who worked for mayor giuliani what was the resnx they were warned that he had also work forward bill clinton. we had plenty of sessions. they were prepared, but again, to your point, there was preparation necessary. it s true, i mean, in the case of my family i got to give them credit they came by their biases innocently. if your great grandfather is hu bert hoover and your growing up is being you can understand why you have a little bit of a bias. john is an independent so that helped a little bit. i can t say it didn t change the content of the toasts at our wedding. i think that was probably the most common point reiterated over and over i was marrying outside of the republican party. john, was he is a hard sell on the home home front initially because of her party affiliation? oh, god no. not at all. exact opposite. my dad was thrilled. your dad s a republican. let s full disclosure. your father is a republican. ly is very conservative. it was not an issue. i think the point margaret s making her family comes by it honestly. they may be a leading indicator in the kind of personal hurt feelings that drive partisanship today. again, it wasn t that i was a democrat, it was that i wasn t a rnl. it was like marrying outside your faith to some extent. there was education involved. there was explaining positions. and you know, i loved that margaret and i think try to set an example of how you can disagree agreeably and people don t always end up at a different place. but the fact that poll shows the huge cultural shift from 1960 when it s 4 or 5%, to a 10-fold increase that s an area we digressed. it should be shocking. it s a really, really sad sign of the times. margaret, what is troubling to me is not only that figure but also the practical impact of this. i tread data myself and in one episode, one experiment i should say, 1,000 people were shown resumes that tipped the hand as to whether you were looking at a republican or a democrat and even when the candidates from opposing peerts had better credentials they didn t get the job. it scares me people are acting this way around us. your thoughts? look, i agree with you. i think you know, i m going to disagree a little how we re framing partisanship. and just beg for a characterization a little bit of definition on this. heimer partisanship, the kind you re talking about i think is debilitating and bad for our democracy. but there is a kind of healthy partisanship that is part of our tradition going back to madison and jefferson. this is going back to the founding fathers. we could we can search for this elusive consensus. we ll find it in russia, in china, in the theocracies of the middle east of isis. so you know, heimer partisanship is awful but a robust healthy and wonderful debate in our culture about our policies is part of the democratic tradition. striking that is important. john, go sort this out over dinner. john, margaret, you see why we have them in separate studios. when i come back the affair that brought down gary hart s presidential am bigses. i think it pointed american journal i. and i will explain. whatever business you re in, that s the business we re in. with premium service like one of the best on-time delivery records and a low claims ratio, we do whatever it takes to make your business our business. od. helping the world keep promises. it s about getting to the finish line. in life, it s how you get there that matters most. like when i found out i had a blood clot in my leg. my doctor said that it could travel to my lungs and become an even bigger problem. so he talked to me about 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infiltrate their world. now it was to take down a public servant through scandal. you remember the photograph of donna rice on hart s lap. chances are you think the photo was the smoking gun that killed this political career. actually, the picture didn t come to light until nearly three weeks after he suspended his candidacy. in the ensuing 30 years there has been no such thing as out of bounds when it comes to media interest in candidates for high office. and not just big media outlets. look at what happened this week in kansas. paul davis, the democratic gubernatorial candidate has been locked in a tight race against republican incumbent sam brownback. one week ago today a twice weekly local newspaper with no website called the coffeyville journal revealed in 1998, a then unmarried 26-year-old paul davis was in a strip club getting a lap dance when the place was raided as part of a drug sting. davis was charged with no crime. he said he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. he was traveling with a partner at the law firm where he worked. the firm rechted the club. nothing in the record suggests that either man violated the law but you know that s not going to stop the story circulation so close to election day. i worry not only about those who have entered the arena and now have their behavior under a microscope but also those who are watching from the sidelines maybe contemplating a willingness to serve but seeing the treatment of others at the hands of the media they decide that the scrutiny is not worth it. this drains the pool of potential public servants and in many cases unnecessarily destroys the lives of those who submit to the 24/7 gauntlet i interviewed gary hart about a book he was releasing and i asked him where reporters and observers should draw the line on covering personal lives. here s what he told me. the standard that got changed i this think was that a public person s private life was of importance only if it affected their ability to do their job. i think that was a pretty good standard and it permitted some people who are flawed human beings as we all are to continue to serve their country. i think he s right. and he also correctly pointed out if today s wrecking ball standard had been applied in the past the country would have been denied the service of fdr, dwight eisenhower and jfk among others. it wasn t for tuesday condemn hart. that was a job for his wife. ironic that while we rejected him, lee hart has stayed with them more than 50 years. at least that s how i see it. let me get another opinion from tom fiedler, who today is dean of the college of communication at boston university and 30 years ago he was a political reporter for the miami herald, in fact, april 27, 1987, at 8:00 at night, his phone rang with the tip that would eventually sink gary hart. tom, thank you for being here. was there any discussion at the herald about whether this was a path the herald should pursue or whether this should remain out of bounds because it was his private life? there was extensive discussion about it, michael. what really drove that story was the tip which turned out to be verifiable and turned out to be accurate. is that senator hart at a time while he was running for president, and by the way, while he also publicly was denying that he was engaged in what was kind of acquaintly called womanizing back then, he was actually running around in a place in miami which if they had done a reality tv show about miami vice it would have been filmed probably there. so the question for us is first of all what is a presidential candidate doing running around in a place known to be awash in drugs, fast boats, fast girls and so forth. and also at a time when he was denying that this was a problem for him. and by the way, as much as i admire matt bai and what he did, the fact that e.j. s quote became somewhat iconic, gary hart had said many times before the e.j. dionne interview, words to those same effect. so when you say that there was a myth that he had set his own trap, that s really not collect. i wouldn t use the word trap. but senator hart himself weighs that issue as really a measure of who he was of his own authenticity. but the herald the herald wasn t responding to the challenge. you got a tip at 8:00 on that april night. absolutely not. but to have four reporters staked out in an alley, yourself included, trying to catch someone for infidelity who was a presidential candidate, that was unprecedented. that s the point that i tried to make. what we were doing was verifying what we were doing was verifying the tip that he in fact was going to spend the weekend with donna rice. which we verified. and you can only do that by actually being there, so you know, you somehow make it sound like what we were doing was out of the bounds of journalism. very much in bounds of what journalists do. the tip, however, was about infidelity. you make it sound like you could track down any tip. no. the tip the tip was about lying. the tip was about lying. he had lied to everyone, the public included, that he was he claimed he was not engaged in this kind of behavior. that was the tip that he was indeed engaged in that behavior and we checked out the tip. we felt that it s important that voters be able to consider when they are looking at a person s fitness for officials, they should be able to take into account what his character included and it included lying about as it happened, infidelity. thank you for being here. appreciate it. it was lying is the heart of the issue. after the break, scaring the public into the voting booth. let s call it for what it is, the politics of fear. we ll examine how politicians are using acts of terror and the air strikes against isis to influence voters. we re back in a moment. create things that help people. design safer cars. faster computers. smarter grids and smarter phones. think up new ways to produce energy. be an engineer. solve problems 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interestingly enough this is mirroring what happened in 2002. the atlantic did a piece not long ago showing the parallels between 2002 when security moms were an important part of that election, and after 9/11 and not saying there is anything at the level of 9/11 but it s showing that polling, wall street journal showed that in august, 14% of women favored obama s foreign policy. now it s to 2. you know, women now, they are doing polling, focus grouping in iowa, it s an important place, where they showed that security issues are now replacing the economy. and don t tell me that democrats aren t paying attention to that, they are. and republicans are too. that ad that we saw in new mexico that s a pretty powerful ad. the reception of how you feel obama is doing, whether you it s it s the right thing or not to bomb syria and iraq t perception is republicans are stronger on national security and democrat are dust. does that hold where this president is launching air strikes against the islamic state. i agree everyone is looking at security issues, to the extent that people need to say something about it. the problem is there is no clear war hawk dove here. the president waged strikes, republicans have said the last week we like what the president s doing with regard to the scope and nature of the strikes so it s hard to get mad at the president for that. there are people who oppose arming kurds in the north but the problem is not along partisan lines. there are people on the right saying wait, we don t know who the moderates are, people on the left saying the same thing. it s tough to make it partisan. the reason why it s partisan is perception. over time people, they associate tougher security with republicans, and that democrats because the president has dithered about for so long, strikes are way overdo, most are talking about especially in the military this is not enough, so the idea of a terrorist attack here happening in the united states, that we re not safe, that perception is now burning into people s mind. what about those that we should not intervene. the fact that republicans, we shouldn t intervene in syria or iraq? i don t know if they say we shouldn t. i think what they are saying that some are. some say we shouldn t intervene at all. that s not the over thearching issue. eric holder is moving on. what s his legacy? his legacy of being for the president, one who made a disgrace of the office, overpoliticized it. he claim as an activist. he didn t investigate fast and furious, held in contempt of congress, benghazi, the irs, and race agitator. i say good riddance to eric holder thank god. we were doing so well. i think eric holder s legacy is one of an unprecedented role for the attorney general. you re saying he unpress denltsed in a bad way. we disdegree whether it s bad. going to ferguson. i think it s great thing to do. we re going to not choose sides but look for justice. a priority of not deporting people over others. cracking down on multinational corporations. corporate greed. these are good things. again, is he for the president, politicizing the office. absolutely. i haven t met an attorney general yet. not to go after illegal aliens. that s not a good thing. trying to prosecute terrorists as criminals, that wasn t a good thing. due process for everybody. shut ter thought. thank you both so much for being here. let s pause for a break. an explosive case in philadelphia, my hometown, alleged gay bashing. three suspectses have been charged but not with a hate crime. should they be? 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you are actually right, how are you michael. pennsylvania used to protect members of the lgbt community, sexual orientation was a part of the hate crime legislation. but the supreme court struck it down on a technicality on the manner in which it became a law. it was actually tied to an agricultural bill and the state constitution doesn t really allow to it become a law unless it had gone through the judiciary committee so because of that it was struck down. so currently in pennsylvania people of the protected class of lgbt are not protected. and so that is why we are hoping to change that. so that people that are homosexual will not be targeted and beaten. seth, here is my issue. first i believe that if there are hate crimes on the book, then the lgbt community should be provided that level of protection. but what occurs to me is that if my wife and i were on that same block and we were beaten, god forbid, the punishment that would be meted out to those individuals would then be less than if those individuals had attacked a gay couple. so why should i in that sense be deserving of less protection under the law? and that is an interesting question that many people pose but it is actually incorrect. if someone were to target you michael because think knew of your ethnicity and they targeted you for that. knew where your family came from in europe and they targeted you and they said derogatory slurs tied that that ethnicity. we could prosecute them and charge them with a hate crime under the ethnic intimidation laws a as they currently stand. with e don t have that in in situation. it is unfortunate that it occurred. one case like this is too many. it doesn t happen as often as many people think that people are targeted because of their sexual orientation. and i m glad at that. but one case is too many. doesn t every crime of violence involve some level of hatred? i m trouble by the idea that we are now going after you because of what s in your mind. i understand that. part of our democracy is to protect minority groups. for the majority to protect those that people often target. and so that is why there was a need, people thought, to protect people if they were going after them because they were african american or because they were korean, if you will. so i understand what you are saying but we do not have the first amendment right to express yourself by beating someone because of their ethnicity. and hopefully not because of their sexual orientation. a final quick question. do you anticipate more arrests in this case, which is getting national attention? i think and i m very happy that the police did a very thorough investigation and collaboration with the district attorney s office. we got arn outpouring from people on social media. and brought in the entire group of people. there was a large group that was a witness and somewhat of a party to what happened and i this i the police got it right but if we find additional information and other people deserve to be charged, they will be. seth williams, thanks for being with us. the philadelphia district attorney. thank you michael. bile right back. who s going to do it? who s going to make it happen? discover a new energy source. turn ocean waves into power. design cars that capture their emissions. build bridges that fix themselves. get more clean water to everyone. who s going to take the leap? who s going to write the code? who s going to do it? engineers. that s who. that s what i want to do. be an engineer. 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right now thomas eric duncan is fighting for his life at a dallas hospital. he is of course the first person to be diagnosed with ebola in america. and since this news first broke on wednesday fear has spread. media coverage has gone round the clock, twitter on fire. look at this tweet from donald trump suggesting that the united states should simply bar flights from the hot zone west africa. the truth is there are some real security concerns at airports as well as some degree of uncertainty about what we thought we knew about ebola. but friday afternoon the white house said a ban on travel from west africa could impede response to the ebola outbreak. so here are two questions that i want to ask. first, is some of the fear unwarranted? and second, how do we prevent the ebola virus from coming into the country again? joining me two experts, gavin mcgregor skinner, the manager for the nonprofit organization which teaches people how to handle dangerous diseases around the world. and a month ago he led a team in nigeria that trained health care workers to deal with the ebola outbreak. also elizabeth cohen, senior medical correspondent came home a week ago from liberia where she was reporting on ebola. gavin, i m concerned about creating panic among some american who is don t have exposure, especially as we re headed into flu season and they might regard every sneeze as a potential ebola outbreak and virus. that s a really good question. there are two issues here. the first is if a person has recently traveled to the u.s. from a west african country they are at home, they wake up, they have a fever, they don t feel well. do they have to make their way to the hospital or is there a 1-800 number to call. at the moment there is no 1-800 ebola number. the second point is we saw this in nigeria. they created an emergency numb to call in. the other point is that when that person goes to an urgent health care center, or a clinic or any other physician in the country f that physician or the nurse takes a proper history and then learns that person came back from west africa, puts him in a room for isolation, they go through the public health alert system but how do they get to a hospital that s ready to admit ebola patients. liz, is one lesson we learned that perhaps honesty is not the best policy or not a sufficient defense in protecting ourselves. i m referring to the texas patient who allegedly reportedly mislead the liberians and may have miss led people at the hospital in the u.s. i think in the hospital it appears he was honest when he was asked, he said yes. apparently on more than one occasion so. this is really on the hospital. he knew, the nurse who took him in knew that he had traveled recently to west africa, and i heard the lieutenant governor claiming the electronic medical record that the right screen didn t pop up at the right time. it s very disheartening to hear those kinds ever excuses. the hospital should say look, we goofed, we re going to figure out how to make this right. they had a liberian man with recent travel history with a fever in their hospital. i can t imagine what excuse would explain that away. would you, elizabeth, paint the picture for the interaction that you had leaving liberia versus gaining entrance to the united states? yes. two very different experiences. so when i left liberia last week they take your temperature three times, they were showing you the one in the car now. that s the first one. and then there are two inside the airport. there is a team of nurses that looks at you. they know that people lie so they want to look at you and see if you re sick even if you say that you are not sick. and then they ask you a question about symptoms, then they ask you also about exposure. they want to know hey, were you near, were you taking care of a patient with ebola. and that s apparently where it seems that mr. duncan lied and said he wasn t when apparently he was and that s the honor system that you were talking about before. now, this is in contrast to what happens when you come back to the u.s. when i came back no one asked me if i had been exposed to a patient with ebola even though i told them i was a journal tlis to cover ebola. they didn t ask my two colleagues questions. they did say to me, this is kind of funny if it weren t so awful, the immigration official was about to hand my passport to me and goes oh, you were in lie beer yaxt i think i got an e-mail about that i m supposed to tell you something. and then he and his colleagues conferred and he came back and said i m supposed to tell you to watch your health for the next 21 days. to watch for symptoms. i said what symptoms am i supposed to watch for. he said i don t know. he couldn t tell me. gavin, shy of a travel ban which the white house said on friday they are not inclined to institute at this point can we keep it out? yes, we can. again, we ve got to be more vigilant at our ports of entry, airports, again elizabeth s correct on my way home i was had my temperature taken and questions and interviewed twice in nigeria, once in germany. nothing in washington, d.c. the other thing i m concerned about when i came back and again all of my team from the foundation we put ourselves under 21 days ever observations, but i didn t want to have to go to the emergency department and sit next to the child with the broken arm if i developed a fever and body aches and had early signs ebola. i m still in my 21 days, i m seven days south i do wonder what if i develop symptoms. where am i supposed to go. i don t want to show up at my family doctor s practice and say i went to liberia and i have a fever. it s not clear. i don t want to minimize the risks that are at stake for some here but as a lay person, lacking the expertise of you i say well, there s one known case, nobody s died in the united states as a result of ebola, i m aware of the fact the two health care workers who returned to the united states have apparently made a recovery and this is not exactly the sierra leone. does it warrant that which we are placing on it in terms of attention? i think people need to understand, i know it s said a million times, that this disease is not spread through the air. you get this disease when you come into direct contact with someone s bodily fluid who is is infected and actively ill. people need to understand that. thank you both so much for being here. thank you. joining me now to talk about the legal aspects of all of this is cnn senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin. great to see you. there are so many facets that interest me. let s talk for a moment about the hospital where apparently the patient presented and instead of admitting him they sent him home. what kind of exposure might they face, what exposure might he, the patient, face give whan we know? you know, the first piece of advice i would give is ignore anything that imbissels like donald trump say about this situation. the second thing is this is not a crisis at the moment. and there is no necessity for the hospital to be punished, for this man to be punished. obviously procedures have to evolve, this is a complicated new threat in the united states. certainly the hospital could face some sort of loss or challenge or fine regarding its accreditation. i can t imagine that the state of texas really needs to prosecute an ebola victim for making a false statement at a hospital which as far as i m aware is not a crime under any circumstances to make a false statement to a hospital so. i think this needs to be dealt with as a public health mat are but not as a legal mat tear the extent possible. how about the airlines? some airlines continue to fly into parts of west africa and some scaled back their service. if you and i were running a carrier, what considerations might we have pertaining to the ebola virus? might we be saying to ourselves we don t want to be held accountable if we transport individual who is get sick and we incur litigation from other passengers saying it was our fault. that is certainly a risk. the appropriate thing to do, i think, for the airlines to be in close touch with our government, with the liberian government, and to assess with them the risks and benefits of continuing to provide service. as the white house and the administration has pointed out, there is a lot of public health benefit to keeping these planes going. people are going in to try to help this situation. if you cut off the planes it becomes more difficult to bring people in who have a chance of ameliorating the situation. it s true that the airlines have to be aware there is a risk but as elizabeth cohen and everyone else has said, this is not an easily communicable disease so the risks should not be overstated either. great to see you. thank you. we ll take a quick break. up next the secret service under fire for lapses in its handling of president obama s protection. are race and gender playing a role in the screw-ups? 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for advice, retirement, and life insurance, connect with axa. i have $40,ney do you have in your pocket right now? for advice, retirement, and life insurance, $21. could something that small make an impact on something as big as your retirement? i don t think so. well if you start putting that towards your retirement every week and let it grow over time, for twenty to thirty years, that retirement challenge might not seem so big after all. what role if any are race and gender playing in the level of protection that the president is receiving from the secret service? this week on the view whoopi goldberg wondered if the problems are about race. i was kind of shocked. the one thing, you always see the secret service jumping in front of bullets. but somehow when like oh, there s somebody running on the lawn. you want to call somebody to get him? it s like nobody gets it. yeah, we re going to watch the whole thing. i mean, what are you waiting for? this is the president of the united states. woopy s not alone. a front page article in friday s new york times quotes several african-american members of congress say their constituents are concerned that the secret service is not aggressive in protecting the first black president. should americans be concerned. i m joined by a democrat of missouri quoted in the article and national security reporter at bloomberg and the author after great book called raw hide down. on this issue what are you hearing from your constituents? i think the whole concept of or the suspicion that this president is not going to be cared for by the secret service or by the nation as a whole as much as previous presidents has been around since the campaign. and so it has just been accelerated as the stories about breaches have occurred. now it s important to remember that suspicions or feelings, not facts. i do understand that there s a great deal of paranoia, there has always been that factor with this president. but african-americans in particular are concerned and we ve got to arrest those fears because i don t think they are based in reality. dell, what is apparently based in reality is the fact that threats against this president have spiked as compared to other presidents, and he was afforded secret service protection, i think, prior to, sooner than, any candidate who has ever sought the office previously. that s exactly true. no president going back since the secret service started protecting them back in the late 1800s has gotten nearly as much protection as president obama has, or as many threats as he has. they have to respond to them. it s a very difficult balancing act the secret service has to weigh and this president gets out there. he is out in the public, he is going on walks, the bear is loose and they have to go with him. i m sure there are a lot of conversations about that when he decides the bear s going to get loose to get a starbucks as he did a few months ago. i think that you know, they have stepped up the protection of him but they had these embarrassing episodes. congressman, i worry about the tone, i worry about the rhetoric. i think the debate in this country has gotten much too hot and frankly, a lot of forks who earn their living with microphones stir that pot in a way that could send someone off the rails not playing with a full deck. no question about it. here s the problem. paranoia seems remarkably more logical when it is based on something that was real. and the reality is not only are there many more threats against the president, but there are many more crazy statements by individuals. people have likened the president to a monkey, somebody, sub human something from some country in western singer. and every time you do this, you increase the possibility of putting information in the head of a sick person who then goes out and tries to act on what he has heard or said. and that s what is dangerous. frankly, that s what has caused much of the paranoia in the black community. i think people of good will all over the country are concerned. no doubt. dell, i want to ask you whether there s a gender aspect to what s now playing itself out, meaning with regard to the level of protection that the president is receiving or not receiving in this case. and here s what brings it to my mind. last monday i remember i got an alert on my phone, my iphone, from the new york times, a story that reported as follows. a man who jumped the white house fence this month made it far deeper into the president s home than previously disclosed overpowering a female service agent inside the north port i coentrance, according to a congressional official. it wasn t in the print edition the following day. and i should be clear and tell you i think there are plenty of women who are capable of providing security to the president, and i respect anybody who is going to put themselves in harm s way to take a bullet for the commander in chief. but if the stature of someone who is placed in that position renders them incapable of providing the highest level of protection, then that ought to be an issue that we have public conversation about. you re all over this story, dell. what do you know and what thoughts might you have? i can t speak to what the new york times edited out or published. i know an officer who tried, officer not an agent, who tried to stop mr. omar gonzalez as he went on his tour through the white house that day did get run over. i can t say it was because the person was small or tall or big or slow. i mean t guy barreled in, he could have run over any one. the problems with this incident, with the fence jumping extend far further than that. they didn t track the guy s background when they had a chance to and knew he was stalking the white house with a hatchet. a couple weeks before he did this. they didn t send the alarm was muted so the officers and agents weren t sure what was going on. the door wasn t locked. there are so many other problems here before we get to that issue. this is an alpha male job. willing to take a bullet for the president. there are some issues with that. we just lost the first female secret service director who was brought in to help clean house after they had the prostitution scandal with all of the male agents in 2012. she had to resign after these several incidents, these you know, these security breaches and lapses. so, i think that s all part of the conversation. congressman, what thoughts do you have on the gender aspect of this either as it relates to the former now head of the united states spret service or the issue that i have raised? i think that there will be some, as in almost every situation, who will look at the story about the secret service agent being overpowered and saying well, women should not become secret service agents. to that i say bunk. there are women who are fully capable of working in that arena and have been doing so every single day and man could have been overrun. it is important i think and i want to make sure i say this, breaches don t don t equate to betrayal. and so we have had these breaches. we had a situation where a secret service agent was not able to stop someone. ladies and gentlemen, look. with all of the agents i ve been to the white house many times, there are agents everywhere. the system needs to be re-evaluated. i guess that s what s going to happen. no doubt. there should have been backup. one of the heroes of the reagan assassination was one of the first female agents who joined the service. there has been a long history of female agents doing solid jobs over 30 years. good point. thank you, gentlemen. lots more ahead. are drunk female guests the gravest threat to fraternities? i ll talk to the man who wrote that. it got him fired. is he blaming the women? or could he be right? and up next, i ll speak to the author after book on the scandal that will ended gary hart s presidential ambitions. he dispense as few myths and argues it turned politics into fodder for tabloid journalism. it works how you want to work. with a fidelity investment professional. or managing your investments on your own. helping you find new ways to plan for retirement. and save on taxes where you can. so you can invest in the life that you want today. tap into the full power of your fidelity greenline. call or come in today for a free one-on-one review. you raise her spirits. we tackled your shoulder pain. you make him rookie of the year. we took care of your cold symptoms. you take him on an adventure. tylenol® has been the number 1 doctor recommended brand of pain reliever for over 20 years. but for everything we do, we know you do so much more. tylenol®. but for you know your do, wdunlike natural teeth.more. try new fixodent plus true feel. the smooth formula helps keep dentures in place. it s free of flavors and colorants. for a closer feeling to natural teeth. fixodent. and forget it. a fascinating book out called all the truth is out. the week politics went tabloid written by matt bai. the gary hart affair changed reporting for good that it s been tabloid ever since. he dispels myths. he writes this. even when insiders and historians recall the hart episode now, they recall it the same way. hart issued his challenge to reporters telling them to follow him around if they didn t believe him. and then the herald t miami herald, took him up on it. people believe hart set is hiss own trap and allowed himself to be snared in it. matt, why does that matter? what significance is it whether hart was issuing a challenge and the miami herald pursued him? it s one of the things of many that are misremembered about this moment in time. almost everything is wrong and in this sense it matters a lot because if gary hart was the one who changed the boundaries and the rules around private lives and political careers, then it s him who invited us into the bedroom of politicians and he set the standard and the media had no choice but to follow. the idea at the time was to hell with the guy, he brought it on himself, not with infidelity but issued the challenge. he deserved what he got. right. the reality turns out to be he did make that statement. it wasn t really a challenge, more of a throw away line. but he made it and it remained off limit, it was in a story coming out and had not yet gone public when the miami herald decided to undertake surveillance of his town house. they did not know when they undertook to rewrite the rules. you come to this moment where the hillary clinton of his day, presumed nominee of the democratic party is backed up against a brick wall in the oil stained alley behind his house, penned in by four reporters from the miami herald peppering him with questions, who is the woman in the house, did you have sex with her, have you cheated on your wife. on that ground in that alley, the boundaries between political and personal lives are rewritten forever. it did not happen because of gary hart s challenge, because reporters decided that the public needed to know. one of those reporters, tom fiedler, was my guest last week. i want you to watch a snippet of what he had to say to me. have four reporters staked out literally in an alley, yourself included, trying to catch someone for infidelity who was a presidential candidate, that was unprecedented. that s the point that i ve tried to make. what we were doing was actually verifying, what we were doing there michael, was verifying the tip that he in fact was going to spend the weekend with donna rice which we verified. you can only do that by being there, so you know, you somehow make it sound like what we were doing was out of the bounds of journalism. very much in bounds of what journalists do. mr. fiedler s point was to say hey, it was all about the lie, not infidelity, it was the fact this man wanted to be commander in chief and was lying to the american people. the lie had to do with his comment that he had he would hold himself to a higher moral standard. talking about the reagan administration when he said it. the lie is not about him saying he never cheated on his wife. he never said that. the question is can moral people do immoral things. is every lie the same as every other lie. and thomas basically said he believes it is and i respect him a lot. i m not looking for a fight with tom or anybody else. what i m trying to do really is to tell the story, this amazing story. and of course that, that particular issue, that lie is what leads paul taylor from the washington post to stand in a bar room of crowded reporters a couple days after that incident in the alley and he says in front of a national audience, senator hart, have you committed adultery. that s what they are trying to get at. it s shocking to people because it s never been asked. we have a minute left together. what i worry about are those who are on the sidelines who could be competent public servants who maybe have a skeleton in the closet and say i m not getting involved in that. i m not putting my family through that. could this pendulum swing back? i worry too. when gary hart got out of the race in 1987, he tore up the speech that had been given to him that was more contrite and gave an angry speech. he says in that speech we ll become a spectator sport in politics with the hunters and hunted. he said i fear for the country, i tremble when i think we may get the leaders redeserved. they said he wasn t taking responsibility. i think 27 years later there are not a lot of americans who would laugh that we may in fact get the leaders we deserve because of the process we created. for the record he is still with his wife of more than 50 years. the book is terrific. thank you for being here. drunk girls at college frat parties, risky business don t you think. one columnist says it s a huge threat to the fraternity. that got him fired. he is here to defend himself. i sure hope so. with healthcare costs, who knows. umm. everyone has retirement questions. so ameriprise created the exclusive confident retirement approach. now you and your ameripise advisor.. can get the real answers you need. start building your confident retirement today. you raise her spirits. we tackled your shoulder pain. you make him rookie of the year. we took care of your cold symptoms. you take him on an adventure. tylenol® has been the number 1 doctor recommended brand of pain reliever for over 20 years. but for everything we do, we know you do so much more. tylenol®. but we ve always been]do, weat the forefrontumman,ore. of advanced electronics. providing technology to get more detail. detect hidden threats. see the whole picture. process critical information, and put it in the hands of our defenders. reaching constantly evolving threats before they reach us. that s the value of performance. northrop grumman. here s a headline that caused an up roar. it read drunk female guests are the gravest threat to fraternities. i m going to redefine that in a couple minutes and draft it as i think it should have appeared. but here s one quote from the article. as recriminations against fraternities mount and panicked college administrators search for an easy out one factor doesn t seem to get sufficient analysis. drunk female guests. the columnist who wrote that piece is with me now. bill, that column got you fired. why? well, i had intended to write and did write about the two things that concern immediate which is binge drinking and pregaming, dangerous practices, i wrote the column with a male centered perspective, pretty harsh words, paternalistic, directed at young men how they should behave. unfortunately it was misunderstood, mischaracterized and the frenzy was dragged off and pushed the conversation onto a different subject. let me give a taste of the criticism. this is from an m.i.t. student who wrote at the core of his argument meaning yours, appears to lie a disdain and disrespect for women. it s apparently women s fault that mi tirks is under a party ban that pregaming is a problem and that rapes are reported and prosecuted on college campuses. pointing fingers at women across college campuses. respond to that and tell me why were you singling out females in your analysis of this issue. so the title was designed to shock and attract attention. and get people to really understand what the real issue is. which is kids on college campuses are going to hospitals and they are dying from improper drinking. much of this has to do with our ill advised laws regarding the drinking age. i didn t write about broader issues. this tone i m sure upset a lot of people. and that s what set off the frenzy. here s how i interpret it. as a guy who lived in a fraternity for three of my four undergraduate years. if there were men who were visibly intoxicated at our pub nights or our grain parties on a saturday night, men, they got shown the door. they got thrown out. women who were intoxicated they were permitted to stay. we didn t take it upon ourselves to try and escort them home and i read your piece and interpreted as admonishment of that kind of behavior on the guys part. if you look at my piece it says if a female guest becomes too intoxicated put her in a cab, send her back to her dorm and send me the bill. i also said clearly, don t let drunk guests in the house whether they are male or female. the reason i singled out women is because as an adviser to my fraternity i have a great deal of influence over the men in the house, i have no influence over the women and i have witnessed hundred pound young ladies standing on line out front of the house, who know they are not going to be served once they get inside because they are under 21, chug half a bottle of vodka there on the steps, they appear sober when they arrive and within a half hour they are passed out. let me throw you a life line. i m going to redefine the headline. i think this is what got you in trouble. drunk demale guests. if you had to rewrite it i m catch you cold how would you rewrite it today? i would probably say colleges need a better look at how to manage binge drinking and pregaming. that s the advice i give when i have written about it before, in other articles it didn t raise such a furor. you regret the headline i take it you don t regret the content. i was shocked by the reaction to the head line. it was not reaction i was looking for. here is my headline. ready? there s nothing fraternal in taking advantage of guests. does that sum it up better? that s a very good headline. it s a very good subject. but that s not what i was admonishing them against because the boys in the house don t take advantage. i was looking for them to protect the people there and protect themselves. but if their co-ed guests they are taking advantage. that s what i was trying to play. you get final word. go ahead. it s very difficult to discuss these complex subjects in the environment that we create on campus having political correctness. we need to look at our drinking laws in this country, we need to consider changing them so that college students can get access to less dangerous forms of alcohol, particularly beer the way they do it in germany with the younger drinking age for beer and we need to encourage people to drink responsibly because if we tell them not to drink at all they are not going to listen to us. bill, thank you. appreciate you being here. thank you. i want you to look at this young man, because this young man could be in big trouble for what he s about to do in this video that went viral. but will the punishment fit the crime? 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probably not, michael. if he kicked somebody and didn t seriously injure the person the police probably wouldn t even have responded to a call. it wouldn t nothing would have happened. he probably would have been offer add plea deal and certainly wouldn t look at jail time. so make the argument that in this case actually i would i would say the police probably wouldn t have even charged him let alone looking at a plea deal. i don t think anybody would have taken this seriously. look, michael. let me be clear i think what this guy did is wrong. and you know, no doubt about it it s wrong. but there s a certain amount of lynch mob and hatemongering about this guy that actually frankly makes me uncomfortable. a lot is reflecting some racism. it s much the same as vmichael vick s situation. there s a lot of really vehement criticism that gets close to the not becomes racism. the problem, michael, is that you know, we are morally schizophrenic when it comes to animals. we kill 58 billion land animals a year, probably a trillion sea animals, that are subjectively aware, they are capable of feeling pain, they value their lives and we eat them and the best justification we have is that they taste good. let me ask you about another aspect programs of our skits freinia. what occurs to me about this case a cat, you correct me where i m wrong, is regarded as chattel, personal property, god forbid if the cat were taken to the vet and there were an incident of malpractice, the person s redress would be limited to whatever they paid for the cat and that would be it much like if it were a table lamp. so in that regard the law says this is just personal property, yet with regard to mr. robinson, he now perhaps faces significant punishment for having kicked the personal property. it doesn t seem as if the law squares on both those levels. do you follow my question? animals have no value except the value that we accord to them. so yeah, i mean i think there s something very, very strange going on. look f they put this guy in jail it makes us feel better. it makes us feel that we re humane and he s inhumane. but the reality is we re all andre robinson, those of us who are consuming animal products, and you know, eating them and wearing them and using them or whafrp action we re participating in the same sort of direct harm to these animals. the argument is they locked him up, we can go back and enjoy our steak now. exactly. look, michael. there are going to be people watching this who are eating their animal food while they are watching the segment shaking their heads saying yes, exactly, outraged. saying you know, and michael, you remember from law school, that it doesn t really matter whether you shoot the person or you pay somebody else to shoot the person. so the fact that andre robinson did it directly or michael vick did it directly and we go to the supermarket and buy our steak or eggs or dairy or whatever, it doesn t make it morally different. it s morally problematic. we ve got a problem, we ve got a serious problem in terms of how we think about animal ethics. professor, good to see you. thank you. you look good. we called mr. robinson s attorney for comment and he did not return our call. the good news is that the cat is healthy and was adopted. up next, the widow of an officer shot and killed in the line of duty is outraged after speaker. i refuse to name the school. and up next i ll tell you why. who s going to do it? 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