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Months. but it's not even until iowa doesn't really pay attention to the fall. these are prelim still. >> what do you expect -- go ahead. >> i just was going to say, that's interesting you have heard that sort of foggy joe biden. but has anybody ever heard joe biden say my time is up? >> no. >> no one in history has ever say my time is up. >> never. >> joe biden used to get on the train in washington, d.c. and you'd ask him a question and he would finish the answer as he was getting off in wilmington. that's joe biden. >> is that a guy who was overcoached by his team? is that a guy surrounded ...

That was ten years ago. >> and this is a really, really important night for him. >> politics is filled with stories of the bounce-back. the famous ones, reagan, mondale, obama in '12. >> if he comes out like gang busters and really effective tonight, you look at the polls already 30% and 40% of the party wants joe biden to be the nominee, right? and there will be others. so it's still biden and the others. so if he comes out like gang busters and really does it tonight, i think he goes higher. i think it's a great night for him. if he's the biden we saw last time again, i think that's really b...

New terrain, having to deal with the conditions of something new, we will see what happens. >> david gura, thank you. great talking to you. and that wraps up the hour for me. i will see you back here tomorrow at 5:00 a.m. eastern for "morning joe" first look and again 3:00 p.m. eastern. next is "deadline: white house" with nicolle wallace and in for nicolle wallace is steve kornacki. >> hi, everyone, it's 4:00 in new york. i'm steve kornacki, in for nicolle wallace when president trump is doing his best to wrestle the news cycle back from the 2020 candidates on what will be a second straight...

Will have too much of a purity test but overall polls have shown time and time again the primary focus is on who can beat donald trump? and joe biden with the name recognition and inevitable sense he's the most electable has given him this lead in the polls, which, of course, could change if he stumbles again tonight or down the road. i think for some of the second-tier candidates it does become a challenge there to make that case, where you have to prove you can beat donald trump but in order to get donald trump, you have to get through the primaries first. >> you're making the argument for t...

Internet globe may fade. >> benefits of lack of scrutiny a front-runner might get. what about some of the other candidates. we're talking about marianne williamson. john delaney got a lot of air time. >> i'm trying to think if john delaney didn't get a lot of air time but we think he did. i guess because he was a sparring partner with elizabeth warren. i think the governor of montana had a good night. and this is somebody who got a lot of impressive things done with a very republican state. and in terms of whatever he's trying to achieve on that stage, some folks want to set themselves up to a...