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Because they may actually play into the whole thing about the 20 20 elections coming up, harry. you've heard about it. >> i believe i heard about it. i may have written about it once or twice. >> you may have once or twice. what we've been talking up until now about the electability of the democratic candidates for president thinking who's going to fare the best but there's actually a new poll out, a new fox poll that has top democrats beating donald trump by significant margins. i mean, he hasn't even reached 40% against any of these candidates. so is trump, harry, the one who actually has an...

Presumptuous. where were the security people at the state department saying, madam secretary, you have to have a secure server over here? you can have something off to the left like colin powell did. but at this point to suggest the secretary of state, as much as she was around, didn't think about the possibility of hacking just astonishes me. and i think it takes away from her big argument, i've been there, done that, i know what i'm doing. >> and now doris, i'm not going to put them up for now, people can get on the the website, she has an electability problem. joe biden is running stronger ...

Where were the security people at the state department saying, madam secretary, you have to have a secure server over here? you can have something off to the left like colin powell did. but at this point to suggest the secretary of state, as much as she was around, didn't think about the possibility of hacking just astonishes me. and i think it takes away from her big argument, i've been there, done that, i know what i'm doing. >> and now doris, i'm not going to put them up for now, people can get on the the website, she has an electability problem. joe biden is running stronger against trump ...

It's sort of like the electability problem they deal with on the immigration side. it's very hard to imagine that the next republican presidential candidate will be able to go out there and kind of do what mitt romney did, which is don't worry, i'm a really rich guy. listen to me. it's all about private equity, cutting taxes for rich people, shuttering the epa and repealing everything. that worked very badly. and so has the opposition to every idea that president obama puts forth in this regard. i'll remind you that the american jobs act, kind of a follow-on package to the -- >> right. >> to t...

>> and if rick perry wasn't just a balloon, if they had blown him up to the size -- he looked great. rick perry is a governor, he looks great, like a texan, great hair, all you need in politics. he had a record of unemployment going down in texas, creating jobs. he talked right. the minute he got on stage, he stumbled. and he's protestant i should say. >> it's more complex than that. let's think about mike huckabee. we had mike huckabee. if there ever were a ready-made evangelical candidate -- >> but he had no money. >> right. he had an electability problem. >> and he did an awesome job with t...