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Intelligence aspect to this. how much trouble -- giuliani possibly? >> he ought to know it's really bad news if the southern district is digging into you. it's a financial investigation all encome pasting. there are so many areas he could face exposure. he's out there in the open asking ukraine for help with election information, right? so he could be looking at bribery. he could be looking at foreign election aid. he's got money flying all over the place. he's making half a million dollars from these two guys that got arrested last week. we don't know who he works for. >> wasn't he questionin...

Officials. the concern for a counter intelligence division would be is he somehow furthering the interest of a foreign principle, foreign state, foreign business, some kind of foreign entity that is not in the national security interest of the united states? >> interesting. the southern district of new york, is digging into giuliani's possible offenses in the office he once led, which is very interesting and the fbi counter intelligence aspect to this. how much trouble is rudy ghoul -- giuliani possibly? >> he ought to know it's really bad news if the southern district is digging into you. it'...

Conspirator i can't tell and tinfoil hat, but having them investigate your political opponent is a different level. there is evidence in these text messages that that part was a requirement to meet donald trump -- >> to get military aid. >> to get military aid or a meeting. to get anything. to get something. and rudy giuliani according to volker's testimony, we understand, yesterday wasn't satisfied until the ukrainians wrote down or spoke out loud were investigating baresma which is biden. >> it makes a difference legally as well. everyone's been saying it. i will say it here. you do not need...

Ukrainians about investigating joe biden. there absolutely are lines crossed here. first of all, putting aside potential criminality, this is a wild abuse of power. and it's way over the line. it's a disloyal act by rudy giuliani. one of the questions is, could there be criminality here? it's going to depend on the specifics of the case. the devil often is in the details. but a bunch of statutes popped into my mind of, wow, they are getting into gray area here. first of all, foreign election aid. you think we learned our lesson from the close call in the mueller report. could be bribery. could...

Congressional subpoenas on the trump investigation and obamacare decision could be coming back up again. it's making its way back through the federal courts. >> will the supreme court issue that ruling on the census case? the stakes are so high. if that citizenship question gets included on the senscensus will suppress the turnout and numbers we get which would lead to questions about the accuracy of the census which impacts the way our districts are drawn up. two, will candidates for office in 2020 follow donald trump's lead last week on accepting foreign election aid? he was all over the map...