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>> well, you need to show up and vote. there are more of us, when i say us, i mean pro democracy americans than there are republicans who are trying to subvert elections and make sure your votes don't count. we need to show up in this 2022 election, if we don't, the outcome of the 2024 election might become a foregone conclusion. >> here is the thing, jeff. i say this to you as a republican, a secretary, you as a democrat, if you had to bet what's going to happen in the midterms structurally, the power of the party tends to gain seats, so the republicans will take over. they may not even need ...

Anonymous, you know, the thing about trump. miles taylor. here's the part i don't get. help me with this professor, they say we got to join with the democrats, moderate democrats to make sure we get people that are legitimate in there and get rid of these trumpers. that doesn't work in an election structure. you got to elect republicans or democrats because we're in a dammed two party system, so how do you manifest what you see as this coalition of the conscientious. >> well, first of all, i'm not saying it's easy. there's no silver bullet. there's no magic formula for saving our democracy. we...

Understand about that. i read the op-ed from, who was it, christi todd whitman, and miles taylor who wrote the anonymous, you know, the thing about trump. miles taylor. here's the part i don't get. help me with this professor, they say we got to join with the democrats, moderate democrats to make sure we get people that are legitimate in there and get rid of these trumpers. that doesn't work in an election structure. you got to elect republicans or democrats because we're in a dammed two party system, so how do you manifest what you see as this coalition of the conscientious. >> well, first of...

The fact that joe biden said we gave them a list of 16 infrastructure elements that the russians cannot hack or we're going to hack into them and cyber them. apparently they are okay with the russians hitting everything else. ainsley: that was my -- that's contactually what i thought. just don't touch these 16. brian: one of the dumbest things i have ever seen ever. steve: i didn't see election structure anywhere on there. are they okay -- it baffles. it should have been -- the red line should have been when we find out you did it to anybody. ainsley: anybody in the united states. steve: we're...

Be dispositive, and this is one example of that. >> what about criticizing certain practices welcome officials might take into their own hands? maybe some of it might be accidental if they send out a ballot before it was done and increasing, creating more of a criminal penalty, frankly, criminalizing -- some would argue criminalizing trying to do your job better, if you want to look at it from one perspective. this seems to be almost an attempt to dissuade election officials for doing almost any part of their job for fear of committing an accidental crime. >> that's another important aspect in...