>> well, you need to show up and vote. there are more of us, when i say us, i mean pro democracy americans than there are republicans who are trying to subvert elections and make sure your votes don't count. we need to show up in this 2022 election, if we don't, the outcome of the 2024 election might become a foregone conclusion. >> here is the thing, jeff. i say this to you as a republican, a secretary, you as a democrat, if you had to bet what's going to happen in the midterms structurally, the power of the party tends to gain seats, so the republicans will take over. they may not even need to overthrow the election structure to win. >> well, but they're not necessarily going to defeat incumbents in a state like michigan where there are democrats in the offices of secretary of state and attorney general. that's what they're trying to do because they lacked having people in those positions in the last election. but they're paying attention to those races, we need to pay attention to those races because if we take it for granted, the