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Actually. not the department. look federal judge, holder is not abiding by our contempt order. you the federal judge says hey i'm telling to you abide by that contempt order. if you don't, you are in contempt of court not the congress. >> bill: what can happen then. >> then and it's only happened twice this history, 1974 with water gate and. >> 2008. >> 2008. then the judge says i don't care, holder, you are handing those over or you are in contempt. can't put him in jail because it's not a criminal matter. at that point holder would have turn over the documents. >> bill: key fine him a lot of...

Actually. not the department. look federal judge, holder is not abiding by our contempt order. you the federal judge says hey i'm telling to you abide by that contempt order. if you don't, you are in contempt of court not the congress. >> bill: what can happen then. >> then and it's only happened twice this history, 1974 with water gate and. >> 2008. >> 2008. then the judge says i don't care, holder, you are handing those over or you are in contempt. can't put him in jail because it's not a criminal matter. at that point holder would have turn over the documents. >> bill: key fine him a lot of...

Federal judge, commerce actually. not the department. look federal judge, holder is not abiding by our contempt order. you the federal judge says hey i'm telling to you abide by that contempt order. if you don't, you are in contempt of court not the congress. >> bill: what can happen then. >> then and it's only happened twice this history, 1974 with water gate and. >> 2008. >> 2008. then the judge says i don't care, holder, you are handing those over or you are in contempt. can't put him in jail because it's not a criminal matter. at that point holder would have turn over the documents. >> bil...