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Democrats are willing to. neil: i'm getting that sense too scott she's right about that that this is going to drag on a while. >> that's a real shame because there are 800,000 families affected by this and the irony that the tsa is one of those agencies that are responsible for securing our borders and are affected by the work stoppage, it's a terrible thing. neil: what do you think though that it's using an emergency order that i've talked to a number of democrats who reported coming up here saying you know, that might be the most pallet able solution to stop, it stops the government shutdown...

Demographics of those coming across our southern borders change, meaning we saw influx in family units and unaccompanied minors and it was then also across the aisle, on both sides, that referred to this as humanitarian crisis. it was then, and it still is now we have a dual-headed issue both on the national security side but also, on humanitarian side. he's absolutely correct. neil: so let me ask you this when you were working under under the obama administration was there ever any pressure when it came to a wall or something like that on putting money toward a physical structure, or did they...

This and voted for it in 2013. >> they voted for it in 2006. >> you're right. there was support. where are they now? >> border security, you bet. if what we are talking about is smart border security about the experts say is needed, like you want to build a bunch of loading dock so we can inspect the trucks that are carrying all of the drugs coming into our country, i am for it. cell towers, roads, electronic fencing. some physical barriers where it is needed, we have already built 600 miles of fencing. we are all for border security. what we are not for his destroying the construction project...