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They have for example, this is at california and battery. This has think grand fathering in. You can see the signs but this is a financial district purely a commercial district so when you have those kinds of signs it can be a different kind of traffic flow when you talk about a mixed residential and commercial area. We have a more mixed use area even though its more commercial. We have brought this picture before because you have a sign on both intersections and you have this accent area. So to be controlling we want to be putting in more explicit controls so were not serving People Living in...

This. I want to point out if i look at the dimension of the sign is relevant. If we talk about 18 inches and its up in front of you or on the second line. So i want that to be considered in relation to the optimum distance of the sign. But i applaud the project sponsor for trying to acknowledge and i think were going to try to work our way and understand the need for the neighborhood related signs. Its a confusing street because this was a main though fair that cuts through San Francisco but your portion of town is a friendly pedestrian area and thats fantastic. So commissioner moore and i wou...

Inappropriate. You saw in our passage submitted we showed signs of other things in the district theyre larger and all of the corner locations have signs on two sides. And i would say this sign is well integrated into the signs of the buildings much more than other signs in the district and a thank you. I think that was welltaken and most of those signs are formula but one has a sign thats been there a looked at but there are certainly a lot of signs in the area that have been there but i dont understand whats loud about this sign. One last point there was a communication with pet emails back a...

So are those on the front. Theres a canopy structure that has a face on it and it is mounted flush its a brush stainless steel face. Im looking at the other one. Those letters will be put on the canopy but the canopy is not there its a flush mount on the wall. But theres no box. No sir, their individual letters. I have a couple of k34i789s it comes back to balance. I know that currently the planning departments rules are not i think the lighting is that flows off and around beyond the lettering of the sign is whether to illuminate the building. I understand that. I applaud the sponsor while it...

Whether to illuminate the building. I understand that. I applaud the sponsor while it may not be hand in hand with the neighborhood. I know that the department is working on some new ideas and criteria how we can control this. I want to point out if i look at the dimension of the sign is relevant. If we talk about 18 inches and its up in front of you or on the second line. So i want that to be considered in relation to the optimum distance of the sign. But i applaud the project sponsor for trying to acknowledge and i think were going to try to work our way and understand the need for the neigh...