A hispanic american, another one is a muslim american. so his unity bid really is important for a couple of reasons, they need to align the progressive race, but they also have to find the message about jobs, amend that's perez's strength, jobs. >> it's also a central question of how much the national parties matter now, really year by year by year, i think the importance and the strength of the national parties has declined, if donald trump decides he wants to be a force on the outside, he'll be more visible than the dnc, but they need to start at the ground legal, state legislative seats and...