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Articulate a north korean strategy that we work with the international community with the objective of ending the nuclear weapons program in north korea. that's what our objective needs to be. >> steve bannon said, "there's no military solution. north korea's nuclear threats. forget it. until the equation is solved showing me that 10 million people in seoul don't die in the first 30 minutes from conventional weapons. i don't know what you are talking about. there is no military solution here. they got us." do we have to accept a nuclear north korea? >> no, i don't think we have to accept a nuc...

What's necessary to push the issues over the finish line. what bannon argued is that the effort on obamacare is half hearted. what is the responsibility of the white house to lead on these issues. >> no one is saying that the president is not leading. there's a lack of leadership on one side of pennsylvania avenue. and so, look, we want everybody to work together. i do. i want the white house and the senate to work together to get the issues on the table and legislative accomplishments through the house and senate that the president can be proud of and sign. >> he also referred to west wing de...

They are going to denuclearize in exchange. steve bannon is characterized as a hawk but that's actually on the far left side of politics. paul: that would be a strategic victory for china. one of the goal is to push out of asia and there's no military solution to north korea at the same time the president and his chief defense secretary, look, if you get this nuclear weapon can missiles that are going to hit up -- >> take military action. exactly. paul: it's on the table so undermining the message the president is trying to send to china, the seriousness of purpose in north korea okay, james, ...

The plus side, i think he was encouraging in getting the president to get out of the paris climate deal. i think what -- it's breasting with bannon for a lot of conservatives, i think they might be liked his attitude more than all of his policies. the trade and immigration agenda is not exactly free market. >> he was 44% tax on your income, james. [laughter] paul: he was for increasing taxes. >> he was. >> i think it should give conservatives pause that he was reaching out to left-winger bob to make common cause about it. but i think what bannon did bring and this maybe a loss in the white hou...

So while they're criticizing donald trump, why aren't they taking care of their own business? they have a lot of problems -- >> steve bannon said this in "the washington post," "the republican party in capitol hill gets behind the president on his plans and not theirs, it will be sweetness and light and one big, happy family. no administration in history has been so divided amongst itself about the direction it should go." that's a loaded quote. >> that's why steve bannon said that this presidency is over. that's a shocking thing to say, coming from steve bannon and the idea that bannon goes o...