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Deployed that kind of warhead. we have warheads can you use any warhead to do an emp attack. we could. we've got cyberoffensive capabilities, physical sabotage capabilities. mark: do we prepare for these things the way our enemies do? >> i wish wdid. in ter of offensive capabilities? . >> i wish we did. i don't know whether we do or not. i suspect we don't. the reason i suspect we don't is because we haven't protected ourselves from the enemies offensive capabilities. and if we understood and had put it together and ourselves mastered this new way of warfare and prepared to execute it, i would...

Restaurant. police say he could still be armed. southwest airlines cancels about 40 flights as mechanics inspect planes's engines. a 737 engine exploded midflight sending shrapnel flying, one of the windows blew out and a passenger 43-year-old jennifer riordan of new mexico was partially sucked out. she died of injuries. i'm kelly wright. now back to "life, liberty & levin.". mark: welcome back. all right, dr. pry, now what can we do to defend ourselves? >> there's really no excuse for the united states to be vulnerable to emp or cybercatastrophes to bring down the grid or physical sabotage....

Result of high power lines getting knocked down and transformers being damaged. if you can survive the worst threat, the nuclear emp attack, you will be able to come back much more quickly from the lesser threats. not just for the rare exotic scenario of terrorist nuclear emp attack, it would improve the security on tornadoes, hurricanes, ice storms that cause blackouts. you don't have to be a physicist to see the grid is at risk. if you look at history of blackouts and the long recovery times that are required after there's these hurricanes, you can see there's something wrong. look at puerto...

Attack is not an emp attack. the combination of it is irresistible, just like the blitzkrieg that the newsy germany came up with with irresistible and nearly defeated the western democracies in world war ii. if we don't protect our systems, there will be no coming back from it. and the bad guys would win, in their doctrine, they would replace one civilization with another in 24 hours. mark: we have the ability to do this to our adversaries and enemies as well, correct? >> well -- >> launching a missile, nuclear missile? exploding it above a particular country and so forth, do we? >> we have th...

Deployed that kind of warhead. we have warheads can you use any warhead to do an emp attack. we could. we've got cyberoffensive capabilities, physical sabotage capabilities. mark: do we prepare for these things the way our enemies do? >> i wish we did. in terms of offensive capabilities? . >> i wish we did. i don't know whether we do or not. i suspect we don't. the reason i suspect we don't is because we haven't protected ourselves from the enemies offensive capabilities. and if we understood and had put it together and ourselves mastered this new way of warfare and prepared to execute it, i w...