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Scheduled for june 12 in singapore. ellicott city, maryland is shifting through debris after a flash flood. witnesses are saying sunday's flood was even worse than two years ago. m kelly wright. now back to "life, liberty & levin.". mark: welcome back. all right, dr. pry, now what can we do to defend ourselves? >> there's really no excuse for the united states to be vulnerable to emp or cybercatastrophes to bring down the grid or physical sabotage. all can be protected against, if you protect against the worst threat. the nuclear emp attack, we've known how to do that for 50 years. the departm...

100 nuclear react nors this country and need electricity in order to keep themselves cool. mark: what do you say to people who say this sounds like a grand conspiracy. this sounds like fearmongering. you probably get this all the time. >> of course. mark: you probably got it from the obama administration. >> yes, we did. mark: what did the obama administration do in response to these scenarios? >> well, the obama administration, to its credit, took solar emp seriously enough that they formed a task force to study the problem, but didn't want to hear about nuclear emp, and the chairman -- >> th...

125 to $250 billion a year. >> that's right. mark: 2 to $3 billion a year, that's mustard money for the federal government. >> i agree. mark: i'm not talking down the money, as far as the federal government goes, that's a pittance, is there a reason that's not slipped into the omnibus bills? >> yes, the electric power industry doesn't want to do anything against the emp, and they have very deep pockets, they own half of k street. they lobby against bills. there's also -- mark: why wouldn't they? it would destroy the entire industry. >> i know. mark: don't believe it will happen? >> they are no...

Emp. mark: welcome back, dr. peter pry. what would be, before we get to the question of how do we protect ourselves? the question is, we need to figure out how we might be attacked? what are the different scenarios, i'm sure there are many, which a country might want to shut down our electrical grid? >> north korea could shut down our grid by an emp attack off a satellite. they in fact have two satellites orbiting over this country as we speak that pass over us several times a day, at optimal altitude to evade our national defense systems. mark: how would they make an emp field? >> detonate th...

Another new way of warfare called the blitzkrieg, a combined arms operation, combined armor with mobile artillery and airpower. part of the blitzkrieg strategy was a motorcycle corps. the motorcycle range out in front of the armored spearheads looking for weaknesses in the enemy lines. that's what the cyberattacks are now. they're the equivalent of a german motorcyclist sitting on a hill looking at the lines to see where is the response, gauging our responses as part of this. we don't get that we are under attack now by the cyberattacks. because behind the cyberattacks is a possibility of phys...