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Nuances and technical advances in policing moving forward. >> some of their science, like in journalism, may seem mundane from day to day. but this is probably the third instance we've seen in the united states in the last year or so where a cop who was otherwise involved in other business off duty -- >> the furthest thing from his mind was to encounter a terrorist. this is a classic example of how vigilance is of optimal importance for your average police officer. >> by the way, one of the points the mayor made is for your average citizen, too. vigilance is the only thing that will stop this ...

Circles, the way it's been explained to us at least initially was somebody who was investigated for terrorism was talking to someone who was either talking to someone else and in turn talking to cypob, he's several from that person, and he may have talked about that other person. but not because he's a suspect himself. there has never been an indication that he himself was suspected as a potential terrorist. he did have some brushes with the law, several of them, in fact. he was a licensed truck driver. also drove for uber, and he was pulled over a number of times for all sorts of violations. ...

Carnage that went on for about 15 blocks. this is the police officer right here. one of the things that new york police have been saying in the last 18 hours is that the response of police around the city are going to be what we're going to have to depend on. so for all the great training and specialized training police get, it's going to be cops in cars that first encounter these terrorists. >> absolutely. one thing most people think about is counterintelligence, jtf. the truth of the matter is the neutralizing factor on the ground is going to be that beat cop, that officer in uniform who is ...

Cooperative. he is talking to them, yes, but his initial talk was unrepe unrepentant, sort of smug about what he had done and not showing any particular interest about how he did it or why. you also heard in the news conference john miller talk about concentric circles. and that's a very interesting point, because there had been some early reporting that he had -- he was, quote, unquote, on the law enforcement radar. in fed speak, when you're on the radar, that means you're in the fbi's guardian system as i'm sure your guest there can echo. he was not in the guardian system. he was not conside...