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energy proponents, right? governor romney i thought sort of had a strong moment and went back and said to the audience, does this strike you as a person who will be in favor of coal, nuclear, of all those other alternatives? do you get that impression when the watch the president in action? do you feel he was forceful enough on that or it should have handled differently? >> i think where the real force came in where the president made a mistake, factual mistake. governor romney said, look, how do you account for the drilling on federal land and offshore is way down? the president seemed to contest that but governor romney came back strong and said look, it is down. drilling is down. the facts back up governor romney. we re down by about 40% offshore, onshore drilling on federal land. that is a fact. the president could not really answer that forcefully. in fact he tried to take credit for the extra oil production on private land that we ve got now to places like north dakota.