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Atte attention. i've been extraordinarily impressed and i'm sure the public will as well. >> the first testimony will be from law enforcement officials who were there that day. in terms of who we hear from going forward, you've been asked this dozens of times. what about hearing from the former president or calling minority leader kevin mccarthy because of conversations we know he had with the former president during that day? even if the answer is yes, that you would want to hear from them, you would want to get their testimony, you've got some personal experience in this. i mean, how could y...

Adjusted trade tariffs down, december 15th tariffs and part of the september tariffs, we will still have 250 billion at 25% which i look at, as a bargaining, an insurance policy. maria: yeah. >> all these things come under careful scrutiny. the question is, look, if the chinese in granting a license to an american company, okay, if they think they will mandate technology transfers or if we open up a joint venture and we don't get, we don't get fair representation in that joint venture, then, those will be violations of this deal and those will come under the enforcement process. so, we will se...

Courts in the same way? would it be the subject of court orders? >> that is a great question. there are two things about that, it would not be public. the enforcement of a grand jury subpoena is something that happens in secret, grand jury proceedings are secret, so the enforcement process is secret. >> although, those who receive a grand jury subpoena are allowed to discuss it publicly? >> yes. you could potentially learn about it that way. presumably if you're getting a grand jury subpoena and you're the state department working for the white house, you may not have an incentive to say anyth...

Us, would it play out in the courts in the same way, or is that something that would immediately be the subject of court orders? >> that is a great question. there are two things about that. one, it would not be public. the enforcement of a grand jury subpoena is something that happens in secret because grand jury proceedings are secret and so the enforcement process is secret. >> at the people who receive a grand jury subpoena are allowed to discuss it publicly. >> absolutely. a witness can talk about it. so you could potentially learn about it that way, but presumably if you're getting a gra...

Interfere in the 2016 elections. so i think the question that you're asking is where is this story going. i think it hangs a lantern on a real systemic problem we have in terms of holding the executive accountable. the game the white house is playing now is yeah, we are going to thumb our nose at the law. we kind of recognize that the whistleblower is covered. we recognize congress has the right to the information. and even if there's a legal issue with respect to interference, what are you going to do about it? you can try to go impeachment, we know your caucus is divided, or try to go to the...